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03-25-2020 10:09 AM
Originally Posted by PeterEnergy View Post
Yes but the OT has been dismissed in several threads here.
I haven't personally seen anyone dismiss the OT but I might have missed it. I do believe that the New Covenant is an upgrade to the Old Covenant but I only base that on the following:

Jeremiah 31:31-34, "Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:
32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the Lord:
33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the Lord, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.
34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the Lord: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more."

Hebrews 8:13, "In that He says, “ A new covenant,” He has made the first obsolete. Now what is becoming obsolete and growing old is ready to vanish away."

Hebrews 9:15, "And for this cause he is the mediator of the new testament, that by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions that were under the first testament, they which are called might receive the promise of eternal inheritance."

Luke 22:20, "Likewise also the cup after supper, saying, This cup is the new testament in my blood, which is shed for you."

Matthew 26:28, "For this is My blood of the new covenant, which is shed for many for the remission of sins."

2 Corinthians 3:6, "Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life."
03-25-2020 09:46 AM
Originally Posted by ActionJackson View Post
The Old Testament is the very foundation upon which the New Testament rests.
Yes but the OT has been dismissed in several threads here.
03-25-2020 09:32 AM
ActionJackson The Old Testament is the very foundation upon which the New Testament rests. The Old Testament is a very necessary read if one is to truly understand the message of the New Testament. The Old describes the fall of man and his inability to achieve pure righteousness while the New opens the door to our salvation via the shed blood of Christ our Lord and Savior. The Bible is the complete message or "letter" from God to His creation.
03-24-2020 03:56 PM
Off-Grid Mat 13:52* Then said he unto them, Therefore every scribe which is instructed unto the kingdom of heaven is like unto a man that is an householder, which bringeth forth out of his treasure things new and old.*
03-24-2020 03:31 PM
Ode to Old Testament

With the new covenant, there is a lot of down-playing in these forums of the Old Testament. In a thread started this week on prepping and the call of God, some posters summarily dismissed out of hand, 4/5 of the Bible, what the OT had to say on the subject. The post below got me thinking about how the OT remains relevant to life today.

Originally Posted by PeterEnergy View Post
Implied premise: there is such a time to worry. Please quote that verse in Scripture.

In my daily devotional reading yesterday in Deuteronomy, there was an NLT study note for 1:19-21
"Don't be afraid! Don't be discouraged!" The expression 'Don't worry' and its variations is the most common command in Scripture.
Let me add, we should ACT prudently AT ALL TIMES. But we should never worry.

We are not getting out of life alive. We are meat covered souls traveling @ 55,000 mph through the lifeless vacuum of space on this small rock. What are you worried about?

The prudent see danger and take refuge, but the simple keep going and pay the penalty.
Proverbs 27:12
Let me make an analogy to movie sequels, particularly Star Wars. The NT often reads like The Revenge of the Sith. That is, the fast-paced climatic drama the creator intended. The OT reads like A New Hope. It's relatively slow paced, characters are introduced and the back story is laid out.

I like history and am a student of history. There is much history in the OT. Putting aside theology, there are many battles, movers and shakers, empires, kings and the birth, rise, decline and end of their kingdoms. It is also a great story about a people, a language, culture and customs. Wearing sack cloth, pouring dust on ones head, tearing ones clothes and hiring professional weepers are just a few things that come to mind about the culture detailed in the OT.

The people document 1,000's of years of their many embarrassing failures. There is a humility in that which is incomparable to any other historical text. I believe in the wisdom of Proverbs 18:12, humility before honor. The old testament is a collection, therefore, of the most honorable people in history.

While others build a monument to their greatness, in time they return to dust. The people of the book in their sacred text build a monument to their humiliations. This informs us of their eternal future hinted at in Proverbs 27:2 Don't brag about yourself--let others praise you.

So, today, when confronted with the temptation to worry in the thread above, freshest on my mind was not the Sermon on the Mount or the words of Jesus. Instead were these study notes to start the 5th book of Moses and the timeless wisdom of proverbs. So, I write this ode to the Old Testament.

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