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04-16-2020 10:03 PM
Nomad, 2nd
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Originally Posted by justin22885 View Post
You may want to read the letter. The quarantine was for soldiers showing symptoms of Smallpox. They didn't lock down healthy people at all. Quarantines are when you restrict travel of people who are actually sick, or reasonably believed to be. A legitimate quarantine would be locking down people tested positive for, or showing symptoms of the disease. Not healthy people. Learn the difference, or keep your monumental ignorance to yourself.
Wrong (also, as usual. I just don't bother pointing it out every time.)

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/quarantine

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quarantine noun
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quar·​an·​tine | \ ˈkwȯr-ən-ˌtēn , ˈkwär- \
Definition of quarantine (Entry 1 of 2)
1: a period of 40 days
2a: a term during which a ship arriving in port and suspected of carrying contagious disease is held in isolation from the shore
b: a regulation placing a ship in quarantine
c: a place where a ship is detained during quarantine
3a: a restraint upon the activities or communication of persons or the transport of goods designed to prevent the spread of disease or pests
b: a place in which those under quarantine are kept

4: a state of enforced isolation

Yes, some of the MANY examples I've linked to are ships, non U.S. citizens, or people who fall under the UCMJ.

OTHERS ARE NOT!
04-16-2020 09:57 PM
justin22885
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Originally Posted by Nomad, 2nd View Post
WRONG (As usual) going back to 1664.

https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/articl...of-quarantine/

BTW:
Check out 1893


BTW: you can still read about George Washington ordering involuntary quarantine in his own handwriting

https://www.topsecretwriters.com/201...-bioterrorism/

No doubt you'll come up with another "but, but"

Bottom line:

As I have said for MONTHS:

Quarantine is man's historical tool to fight plague and no less than the bible and founding fathers understood its ROUTINE use.

If you wish to argue that it is not deserved in this circumstance.... I won't argue with your opinion.

But for the love of God would you people PLEASE keep your monumental ignorance to yourself!
You may want to read the letter. The quarantine was for soldiers showing symptoms of Smallpox. They didn't lock down healthy people at all. Quarantines are when you restrict travel of people who are actually sick, or reasonably believed to be. A legitimate quarantine would be locking down people tested positive for, or showing symptoms of the disease. Not healthy people. Learn the difference, or keep your monumental ignorance to yourself.

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Washington quarantined any soldier displaying any smallpox symptoms in a hospital dedicated to smallpox patients.
04-16-2020 09:53 PM
Nomad, 2nd
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Originally Posted by PatrioticAmerican View Post
"Since the use of involuntary quarantine in the US goes back AT LEAST to the 1730's"


Of sailors coming into port, not the complete and total shutdown of a nation. Keep it in perspective.
WRONG (As usual) going back to 1664.

https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/articl...of-quarantine/

BTW:
Check out 1893


BTW: you can still read about George Washington ordering involuntary quarantine in his own handwriting

https://www.topsecretwriters.com/201...-bioterrorism/

No doubt you'll come up with another "but, but"

Bottom line:

As I have said for MONTHS:

Quarantine is man's historical tool to fight plague and no less than the bible and founding fathers understood its ROUTINE use.

If you wish to argue that it is not deserved in this circumstance.... I won't argue with your opinion.

But for the love of God would you people PLEASE keep your monumental ignorance to yourself!
04-16-2020 09:37 PM
redneck007
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Originally Posted by Fred Nietzsche View Post
A Virus has one an only job a its to replicate.
And it's only other job is to mutate...

The Regular Flu changes every year, why would this be different (its only a flu they said).

Current Corona has already mutated and there are 4-7 different versions (depend on who's talking). Maybe that's why some people who get it are fine an some die?

However, Bio-Weapons are usually hardened (what good is it if it keeps mutating) so if this is from the Bio Lab in Wuhan maybe it wont.

Good news tho - we will all see first hand in the fall !
Or Not...

And if you’re talking to who, you know who is lying and dumb. All virus mutates, replicates, finding hosts to live on. Just like burglary, you have to make yourself not easy target. Start with mask and PPE. Then have the guns and essentials supplies stockpiled regardless of what people say.
04-16-2020 09:23 PM
Fred Nietzsche
If, not when...

A Virus has one an only job a its to replicate.
And it's only other job is to mutate...

The Regular Flu changes every year, why would this be different (its only a flu they said).

Current Corona has already mutated and there are 4-7 different versions (depend on who's talking). Maybe that's why some people who get it are fine an some die?

However, Bio-Weapons are usually hardened (what good is it if it keeps mutating) so if this is from the Bio Lab in Wuhan maybe it wont.

Good news tho - we will all see first hand in the fall !
Or Not...

04-16-2020 09:05 PM
Ghost863
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Originally Posted by PatrioticAmerican View Post
"The prudent see danger and take refuge, but the simple keep going and pay the penalty."


Prudence requires thought, and merely responding to the propaganda of others is not thinking, and, therefore, is not prudent.
well then you explain that to the Man upstairs and see if he happens to agree with you.
04-16-2020 08:52 PM
PatrioticAmerican
04-16-2020 08:51 PM
PatrioticAmerican "Since the use of involuntary quarantine in the US goes back AT LEAST to the 1730's"


Of sailors coming into port, not the complete and total shutdown of a nation. Keep it in perspective.
04-16-2020 08:50 PM
PatrioticAmerican "The prudent see danger and take refuge, but the simple keep going and pay the penalty."


Prudence requires thought, and merely responding to the propaganda of others is not thinking, and, therefore, is not prudent.
04-16-2020 08:48 PM
PatrioticAmerican "if the world did nothing and the C-Virus killed Billions"

Being an educated person, I'd say that is a total childish fantasy. Might as well tell me we need to have total blackout of lights at night because Mars might attack if they see us.
04-16-2020 08:08 PM
Ghost863
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Originally Posted by PatrioticAmerican View Post
"and just exactly what would you be saying right this very minute if the world did nothing and the C-Virus killed Billions"


"IF" is for children. The virus has already spread through the population and it didn't kill "billions".

As Bill Bennett said this morning, after 9/11 we said , "Let's Roll!", but this dramabug caused us to roll into a ball and run scared under our beds. I am far more afraid of cowardly Americans than any bug. They're willing to destroy this nation before anything ever happens with the bug.

Benjamin Franklin once said: "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
Yeah, you are right. Old Ben might have said that but here is what a higher authority says about this issue:

Quote:
The prudent see danger and take refuge, but the simple keep going and pay the penalty.
Proverbs 22:3
04-16-2020 07:47 PM
Nomad, 2nd
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Originally Posted by PatrioticAmerican View Post
"and just exactly what would you be saying right this very minute if the world did nothing and the C-Virus killed Billions"


"IF" is for children. The virus has already spread through the population and it didn't kill "billions".

As Bill Bennett said this morning, after 9/11 we said , "Let's Roll!", but this dramabug caused us to roll into a ball and run scared under our beds. I am far more afraid of cowardly Americans than any bug. They're willing to destroy this nation before anything ever happens with the bug.

Benjamin Franklin once said: "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."

I am SO TIRED of SO MANY people who are so frantic to put their complete and total ignorance of history on display!:

https://vtuhr.org/articles/10.21061/vtuhr.v2i0.16/

Since the use of involuntary quarantine in the US goes back AT LEAST to the 1730's.... Old Ben was very aware of its necessity....
04-16-2020 06:11 PM
redneck007 It is important to have a network of family and friends you can trust as even a lone warrior needs a team to defend any bug in situation. And get it in our head that bugging out is a fantasy boy band dream. Where are we going to bug out to? If one says a remote location away from everyone then I say you should already be driving there or living there as air travel and public transportation are unreliable and potential deadly.

If if folks haven’t figure out the 5 firearms they need to have ipeither on them or in their close proximity at all time then they should do it now. You want diversity, durability, reliability, transportability, ammo availability, and effectiveness. Part availability isn’t that important if you bought a newly built AK as it should run 10k before things may need touching up and most of us here beside the YouTube range operators won’t see more than 300 rounds a year. And most of us are YouTube viewers.

1) dry food, water For 6 months and make sure you ration it.

2) and all your meds. Your doctor can get you bulk meds (painkillers and oxi aren’t meds) so you are explain the situation. I am one med and I a,ways make sure I have 30 days supply at all time. This time around, I talked to my doc and ended up 120 days supply and when I need to refill, I’ll still have 60 days overlap. Most pharmacy and insurance will let you have 15 days overlap for real meds.

3) gun& ammo & protective gears (plates, boots, etc)

4) reliable and fuel efficient vehicle. Who cares where your vehicle was made, it just have be be reliable and durable.

5) basic fighting skill with your guns and blade weapon.
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.x) make sure you’re in good health as you don’t want to be in hospital during bad time
04-13-2020 09:14 AM
PatrioticAmerican "and just exactly what would you be saying right this very minute if the world did nothing and the C-Virus killed Billions"


"IF" is for children. The virus has already spread through the population and it didn't kill "billions".

As Bill Bennett said this morning, after 9/11 we said , "Let's Roll!", but this dramabug caused us to roll into a ball and run scared under our beds. I am far more afraid of cowardly Americans than any bug. They're willing to destroy this nation before anything ever happens with the bug.

Benjamin Franklin once said: "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
04-13-2020 04:36 AM
justin22885
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Originally Posted by 556308dawg View Post
If this virus mutates and comes back in a second surge, so be it, I'll deal with it then. I'm not going to worry about it till then. But, hey...you all go ahead and worry yourselves sick over it the whole time before it comes back again. I'm not into buying trouble for myself.
Agreed. We can play "what ifs" all day. What if a meteor hits my house? What if I get struck by lightning? What if I slip and fall down some stairs? But at the end of the day these people are just letting their imagination and fear control them.
04-13-2020 04:11 AM
BCseacow83
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Originally Posted by gravedigger View Post
How quickly you forget how evil the LEFT really is. Removing Trump is just ONE of their goals. Other goals are:

Disarm Americans, by force if necessary

Remove God from EVERYTHING

Destroy Capitalism

Usher in Communism

Kill 6.5 BILLION people for the "Utopia" of the Illuminati of 500 Million people total.

Serve SATAN.

Take a moment to Google "The 45 Goals of Communism" Read them slowly, and BE HONEST and check off all that they have already accomplished. There are only three or four left on the list to do, and I believe this virus B.S. is a part of that push.

It is not JUST about getting Trump out of office. It is about world domination by Satan worshippers.

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Thanks a lot. Now I actually want the wuflu...it sounds better than sticking around to see that happen.
04-13-2020 01:14 AM
gravedigger
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Originally Posted by Steverino View Post
So the Dems colluded with China to unleash this virus because Orange Man Bad...
How quickly you forget how evil the LEFT really is. Removing Trump is just ONE of their goals. Other goals are:

Disarm Americans, by force if necessary

Remove God from EVERYTHING

Destroy Capitalism

Usher in Communism

Kill 6.5 BILLION people for the "Utopia" of the Illuminati of 500 Million people total.

Serve SATAN.

Take a moment to Google "The 45 Goals of Communism" Read them slowly, and BE HONEST and check off all that they have already accomplished. There are only three or four left on the list to do, and I believe this virus B.S. is a part of that push.

It is not JUST about getting Trump out of office. It is about world domination by Satan worshippers.

.
04-12-2020 05:53 PM
556308dawg If this virus mutates and comes back in a second surge, so be it, I'll deal with it then. I'm not going to worry about it till then. But, hey...you all go ahead and worry yourselves sick over it the whole time before it comes back again. I'm not into buying trouble for myself.
04-12-2020 04:10 AM
redneck007
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Originally Posted by cannedy View Post
hot here hawaii 80's f...484 tested pos. 9 deaths...first case community spread my island 14 ventilators
Good to know. Hope they are not downplaying the numbers to save tourism.
04-12-2020 03:56 AM
cannedy hot here hawaii 80's f...484 tested pos. 9 deaths...first case community spread my island 14 ventilators
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