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08-21-2012 05:52 AM
JM753 ball peen hammer. there's a reason the Angels carry them around...
08-16-2012 10:21 PM
controlledpress 9 iron.

It's hard for the prosecutor to claim it was intended to be a lethal weapon. So there's an added bonus on the self defense claim right there.

and it takes nice divots..
08-16-2012 08:03 PM
paintballarmsdealer
School is in.

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Originally Posted by Orange Kitten Bob View Post
PLease school me on MB68 ammo and paintball guns. Thank you in advance.

OK but first little history lesson I want you and others to see the true potential of what I'm about to reveal and why



A paintball gun is a 68cal airgun delivery system capable of propeling a 68 cal projectile up to 100+or- yards and very accurate up to200+or- feet, mostly use today by sport gammers playing war games with paint or powder filled projectiles, they are also used by our police, military and specail forces for training and less lethal aplications.

Those rubber coated glass projectiles or MB68P breaker balls @ 450fps have more kinetic energy per square inch than a bean bag round from a shot gun with 3 times the distance.
They are a solid 6.5 grams and/or 100 grain reusable projectile that can be used over and over again on soft targets.


you can learn more here in the forum by searching MB68P, lots of spred out info on the subject you can also do a ebay or google seach for types of ammo. Heres a good place to start

https://www.survivalistboards.com/sho...d.php?t=122792

In my school you have to do your home work to be rewarded.
08-16-2012 07:49 PM
LtScott14 How about the "mini" bat replicas sold as souveniers at the ball games? They are hickory, approx 12-14in long, tapered construction, and one handed can raise pain levels.
You can wrap some para cord around the grip, drill a hole for a lanyard, and look like a toy! Ideas?
08-16-2012 02:58 PM
Orange Kitten Bob
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Originally Posted by paintballarmsdealer View Post
Perhaps a paintball gun and some rock hard MB68P ammo?
PLease school me on MB68 ammo and paintball guns. Thank you in advance.
08-16-2012 02:54 PM
Orange Kitten Bob Sledgehammer could be good, especially a small 'Thor's Hammer'. You can buy the latter at any hard ware store.. The paintball gun? PLease school on the ammo of which its poster said.
08-16-2012 01:27 PM
mbkirkpatrick Flashlight, I use an surefire defenderbut still like to think the best impact is a buttstroke of a shotgun lol. To be honest though a flashlight is what I reach for first. The power that white light has on an unexpecting person is amazing and I have a few years current training in filipino martial arts so impact weapons and knives come natural to me, plus, I dont muzzle sweep the kids when they just wanted a drink of water in the middle of the night
08-15-2012 02:27 AM
PapaWhiskyBravo
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Originally Posted by Jaqhama View Post
6 cell maglite

http://www.maglite.com/product.asp?psc=6CCELL

I've got one, I think they have been discontinued now.
There you go!

That would be good with an aftermarket bulb. My 4D has a TerraLux 3LED bulb and takes it up to 700 lumens. Its almost too bright for indoors work as the light shining off the walls is so bright it leaves a 'light burn' on my own vision for a split second.

I reckon a 5D with a lanyard or one of those 6Cs and around 300-400 lumens would be perfect.
08-15-2012 02:05 AM
Jaqhama 6 cell maglite

http://www.maglite.com/product.asp?psc=6CCELL

I've got one, I think they have been discontinued now.
08-14-2012 10:30 PM
PapaWhiskyBravo
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Originally Posted by Jaqhama View Post

I agree that the C cell Maglite is a better option than the D cell flashlights.
The C cell is as close to a baton as you can get in a torch.
Except its only a 325mm (12") long.

If they made a 6C Maglite i'd agree with you, but 4C is the biggest.

You can make a simple lanyard for a 4-6D Maglite by making a loop of paracord and threading it through itself around the handle. The head of the torch prevents it slipping off.
08-14-2012 09:52 PM
Jaqhama
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Originally Posted by Lost_ID View Post
More practice, less ale.
Got a good chuckle out of that.
08-14-2012 08:26 PM
Lost_ID More practice, less ale.
08-14-2012 08:07 AM
Jaqhama
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Originally Posted by Lost_ID View Post
Axe.
Offense or defense.

a skulu bkarlar finna dag a x mn skal mr bi skjldur og brynja Thormod told King Olaf that his axe would be his shield and armor. (Fstbrra Saga)
It didn't seem to work for Harold Godwinson at the Battle of Hastings.
08-14-2012 06:23 AM
Lost_ID Axe.
Offense or defense.

a skulu bkarlar finna dag a x mn skal mr bi skjldur og brynja Thormod told King Olaf that his axe would be his shield and armor. (Fstbrra Saga)
08-14-2012 05:25 AM
paintballarmsdealer Perhaps a paintball gun and some rock hard MB68P ammo?
08-14-2012 04:33 AM
Jaqhama
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Originally Posted by whirlibird View Post
Having carried an ASP on my belt for the better part of a decade, I've broken/bent 2 in use (let alone training) and finally gave up and went back to my straight stick (baton).

If you have to use an expandable baton, the Peacekeeper RCB is the one to get.

I have a fondness for the old straight stick, mine is a Dymondwood 29" LAPD style stick that is a bit heavier than a normal baton and is highly effective, one handed or two.

If you have to go with the Mag-Lite, go with the "C" cell model, it's easier to get and keep a good grip on.
My ASP was one of the original ones. Maybe the older ones are better?

My much preferred impact tool was the venerable PR 24...but they were so effective in disabling felons that the Australian Government, in their infinite and disturbingly feeble minded attitude to crime, banned their use by Police and private security forces after only a couple of years.

In the UK many police units have expandable PR 24's...perhaps the best of both worlds.

I agree that the C cell Maglite is a better option than the D cell flashlights.
The C cell is as close to a baton as you can get in a torch.
08-14-2012 03:08 AM
survivalseb Short baseball bat is a good compromise, as it is socially acceptable and I dont feel comfortable having a bladed tool in living room such as an axe, shovel, crowbar. Oh I just remembered that I have napoleonic cavalry saber at home:D
08-14-2012 01:41 AM
whirlibird Having carried an ASP on my belt for the better part of a decade, I've broken/bent 2 in use (let alone training) and finally gave up and went back to my straight stick (baton).

If you have to use an expandable baton, the Peacekeeper RCB is the one to get.

I have a fondness for the old straight stick, mine is a Dymondwood 29" LAPD style stick that is a bit heavier than a normal baton and is highly effective, one handed or two.

If you have to go with the Mag-Lite, go with the "C" cell model, it's easier to get and keep a good grip on.
08-13-2012 05:16 PM
PapaWhiskyBravo A lot of the items people are suggesting are quite long and require 2 hands to swing. Swinging a baseball bat, golf club, shovel or whatever is fine out in the open, but would be a lot harder indoors.

All someone has to do is stand in a doorway and it nullifys your weapon. If you're in a corridor or hallway the only attack you have is straight down over your head. If you have a low ceiling that will hamper your movement too.

If you do happen to catch the intruder in a large room he's not just going tostand there getting beaten, he'll either attempt to escape or if he cant (or is game enough) he'll close the gap and clinch to avoid the weapon and probably force you against a wall. This will completely negate your weapons effectiveness.

I think the best size for a home defense item is some thing that you can swing with one hand and isnt too long to get caught on anything. You then have the other hand free to keep the intruder at bay or to control him.

I like the Maglite torch for these reasons and more.
08-13-2012 04:58 PM
PapaWhiskyBravo
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Originally Posted by Jaqhama View Post
A baseball bat will kill as easily as anything else.

A crushed skull, a staved rib into the heart or lungs, ruptured spleen, internal bleeding.

All of the tools I mentioned are common household items, in many peoples homes.

A baseball bat would be considered a weapon if the householder admits it was there purely for self-defence.
Well its your house, you use whatever you think is necessary. Just remember the cops may not be there when you REALLY need them, but they'll definately be there afterwards if you kill someone.
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