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Old 01-19-2010, 08:42 AM
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I was just wondering how many of you would consider a .410 as a reasonable survival round. I love the fact that it's small & I know they're good for small game, but are they worth it? Any opinions?

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Only 1 ounce loads, poor ammo supply and most shotguns are chambered with a full choke. You best sbe a good shot. Advantage is that the rounds are light; therefore you can carry more and for a fewer $$$ more you can buy a Tarus Tracker chambered in .44 and 410. Darn versitile.
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http://mcb-homis.com/index410.html

Some good info on there of what a 410 is capable of. I indeed plan on getting one for a packing shotgun, and reloading my own ammo for some "pet loads".

https://www.lipseys.com/itemdetail.a...ily=500+Series
I'm getting a cylinder bore gun, So I don't lose any velocity or accuracy from slugs.

The loads in a shotgun go from 1/5oz slugs, to 3/4oz #4 shot, and you can load anything within reason. Worth digging around for some information on.
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I'd rather use a 12 gauge and load my own shells, that way I have a work horse.
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FWIW, I have a Taurus Judge that I have been pleased with .410 / .45 Long Colt.

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I think they would be a good choice to make,but would not want it to be my only weapon. Shot for small game and slugs and buckshot for larger game and self defense at short range. It would be much easier to carry 100 rounds of 410 than 12 ga.
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You want a lightweight shotgun shell? Consider the 20 gauge shotgun. There are way more 20 gauge shotgun shells sold today than .410. The size is very popular with bird hunters. For the most part .410 hunting with shot is limited to 20 yards. The 20 gauge can easily push 30-35. I have taken numerous squirrels at 40 yards with a 26" barrel, full choke, and premium #5 shot loads.

The 20 gauge shotgun is also cloe to 2lbs lighter than a comparable 12 gauge model.

IF given a choice between a .410 and 22lr rifle, I'd pick up the 22lr without a blink of an eye. People that use .410 for hunting are very skilled with shotguns and use them where 15 yard or less shots are common. Really for hunting; people use the .410 when they are worried about excessive damage to the bird from a more stout gauge.
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Thanks! Actually in another thread I was debating a 20 ga but everyone else said get the 12 ga. I still like the idea of the 20 ga though. I too would prefer the .22 but after hunting squirrel over the past week in thick brush, and much to the chagrin of Chuck Hawks, I can see how a light shotgun would be the best choice in certain situations.
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I have a little Rossi .410/.22lr combo that originally belonged to my son. It makes a great emergency gun, and a keep it close to the bugout gear.
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If you are talking short term use then it is adequate, long term not a prayer of a chance!
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One ought to indicate region perhaps. Short heavier wooded areas, yea I'd feel ok with a .410, rather have a .22. Longer distances with larger game, assuming you are talking about game acquistion when you mentioned "survival", I'd rather have something heavier probably...small game within reasonable distances, .410 to me would be great-squirrel, rabbit, small birds kind of thing (typically more small critters in woods then larger ones anyway). I've always liked .410's, for what it is, wouldn't go duck hunting with one but for most other small game it seems to be effective. Most all squirrels I've ever shot, rabbits too, were sitting still as I typically used to hunt with a .22, how many pellets does one need to hit small game stationary anyway, and you have the added ability to hit something moving, perhaps.
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I have a little Rossi .410/.22lr combo that originally belonged to my son. It makes a great emergency gun, and a keep it close to the bugout gear.
yes, 410/22lr would be mighty handy for survival
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i don't know why 410 gauge is loaded with such a light slugs like 1/5 and 1/4 ounce while the shot loads are up to 3/4 ounce!!
in 410 gauge a decent ounce slug moving @ 1200-1400 fps will make a decent deer load @ slug range .
i share this wish with thousends of 410 gauge owners world wide.
I hope one day an ammo company begin to load a decent heavy slug in 410 for seriouse hunting.
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I have the Rossi Youth but in .22lr, 20 gauge and .243. (Trifecta)
It rocks. Not much size difference from 410 to 20ga. but significant punch difference. (Especially the 3" rounds)
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For survival I'd have to go with the 12 gauge.
I have 2 .410's that are daytime homestead tools, mainly because they are light and handy, for rattlers and such.
After dark, if the dogs are barking and the chickens are raising a ruckus and the wife "suggests" I go check things out I go forth with a 38 in the pocket and a 12 ga double in hand. I figure if a coyote or feral dog is after the hens a 410 ain't gonna cut it.
It just might, but I go by the dictum of Robert Ruark - "use enough gun."
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Default I go by the dictum of Robert Ruark - "use enough gun."

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I'd rather use a 12 gauge and load my own shells, that way I have a work horse.
Seems cheaper and more versatile!

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FWIW, I have a Taurus Judge that I have been pleased with .410 / .45 Long Colt.
Me too, good round in a pistol!!

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I have a little Rossi .410/.22lr combo that originally belonged to my son. It makes a great emergency gun, and a keep it close to the bugout gear.
Agree good stuff

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I have the Rossi Youth but in .22lr, 20 gauge and .243. (Trifecta)
It rocks. Not much size difference from 410 to 20ga. but significant punch difference. (Especially the 3" rounds)
Like the way you think, great combo and gun!

I go by the dictum of Robert Ruark - "use enough gun."
I agree!
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Check out the Rossi or H&R single shot 20 gauges.. I own two. They are my favorite carry gun. I carry a slide on shell holer on the butt and in it I put three birdshot (either #4 or #6) and two buckshot or slugs. With a modified choke it will handle just about anything I want to hunt. In a survival situation if I am placed into a position where I need to hit something I find it comfy to have a shotgun. They take apart for easy storage in a pack.
Yep, my single 20 and a medium frame .357 revolver is about all I need for most outdoor activities...
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I have wanted a Coach Gun for some time. I cannot think of a better camp gun that one of the Stoeger 20 gauge coach guns..
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i like my 410 for a pack gun. its accurate. i love it for small game. but in a survival situation ide throw the 410 in my back pack and carry either my crossbow or my 243 in my hands so i can take larger game. ide probably take the crossbow because i could fairly easily craft my own bolts. but i would deffinatly take my 410 for small game!
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