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The wife and I are considering a 40x8x8.5 cargo container for our bug out
retreat. We like the fact that the containers are made of steel, are waterproof and can be securely locked when were are not around. They appear to be resonable priced and easy to convert to our needs.

Does anyone have any experience with converted cargo containers as living or
storage structures?

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Several agencies use Connex cargo containers as structures and command posts in Iraq. They work out just fine once outfitted with some power, climate, and a floor and walls.

A very good plan. I hope to get a couple up on the land one of these days.
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Been doing some major thinking on this also. I have seen some cool stuff being done on the net, and i'll post a link when i can.

My only consern is what SHTF scenario we may face. Converting one into a fallout shelter or blast shelter would prove expensive i think, what with over pressure valves and air filter systems, generators, fuel, etc. I would imagin if you were going to spent a sizable amount of time in it you may consider welding a few together.

We can get these for like $2000 used up here in Canada. I was doing some planning and thought maybe to bury like 4 welded togther with a concrete and re-bar shell.

I am of the beleife that all out nuclear war has a slim chance of happening, so really without all the bells and whistles this isnt all that expensive
( relativly ) for what you get in the end.
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The wife and I are considering a 40x8x8.5 cargo container for our bug out
retreat. We like the fact that the containers are made of steel, are waterproof and can be securely locked when were are not around. They appear to be resonable priced and easy to convert to our needs.

Does anyone have any experience with converted cargo containers as living or
storage structures?

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http://www.thearkhaus.com/

Here he talks more about it... http://zombiehunters.org/forum/viewt...ping+container

Also, a decent FAQ... http://zombiehunters.org/forum/viewt...hp?f=6&t=53485
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doesnt that look nice
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Someone had a long thread about this....they were burying it in the ground IIRC
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This sounds like a business oppurnitunty in the making. Locate a ready source of containers, outfit them as survivalist and disaster housing with 12v and 110v services, on board water and septic, and put them out on the market. Heck the UN would probally snap them up for places like Haiti and Africa. Homes in a box, just ship to site, drop on the ground, install the included solar panels on the roof, connect to a septic system or have pumped every other day. Hire the unemployed and put America back to work! Use as much reclaimed and recycled materials as possible. List it as a Green Business and qualify for Guberment grant money. Come'on guys, heres your chance! I can't do it because there ain't no seaport here in Arizona.
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I have used these repeatedly on job sites for many years. I can truly say that I have lived in them...hot, cold and in between.

This is how I would suggest that you set one up...

Build a wall 8 feet back from the container door. This space is used to store various items (think tools) that you would be using when you are on-site.

Make provisions to lock the doors OPEN. You don't want someone locking you inside. These are just as hard to break out of as they are to break into.

This wall will have a 36" door and operable window. Frame an opening for an air conditioner (regardless if you put on in now or not). Frame an 12" square opening for power ventilation. A duct goes from this ventilator to the far end of the container. In operation it draws in the fresh air, transports it to the far end and exhausts it out the window.

Frame the inside (walls and ceiling) with 2" x 4" and insulate with rigid foam insulation. Don't waste your time with fiberglass since the R-value is so much lower. Cover the walls with 1/2" plywood (not sheetrock).

Paint. A lighter color for the interior is best as it reduces the sense of claustrophobia.

Electrical systems can be built into the walls but surface mount offers far more flexibility. Plan ahead.

Another thing...prepare and -carefully- paint the -top- with something like this (vendor selected at random):

http://www.pplmotorhomes.com/parts/r...of-coating.htm

While these containers are generally watertight, a used one might have pinholes. A leak is not a good thing.

The suggestion to have two is good. The pipe fitters would put two containers parallel 16' apart and then build a shed roof over the space in between. This worked out good. They could be welded together like a T or L...

Lots can be done with these!
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I can't do it because there ain't no seaport here in Arizona.[/QUOTE]

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Yes these are a viable option.
Cheap. Well built.

Only thing is you.... a) must raise them off the ground to prevent rusting. b) insulate them according to the area you are in.

If you are skilled with metal working and welding, they are an easy thing to convert. There are sites and plans for containers online.

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I can't do it because there ain't no seaport here in Arizona.
From what I understand, they also ship OTR freight in these things as well, so not being near a seaport doesn't really matter. However, living in a metal box in Arizona sounds like something out of Coolhand Luke or Papillon.

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we use one at work for storage, massive condensation so you will need to provide for plenty of ventilation.
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I haveposted this a few times and no one seems able to help me on this subject. Where is everybody getting these containers for $2000? In Colorado, I can't even find where to get them, much less at that price. WTF?
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I have posted this a few times and no one seems able to help me on this subject. Where is everybody getting these containers for $2000? In Colorado, I can't even find where to get them, much less at that price. WTF?
Well, it helps to be near a seaport. Otherwise, you will have to incur transportation costs for delivery to your site.
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Well, it helps to be near a seaport. Otherwise, you will have to incur transportation costs for delivery to your site.
And I get that, but there are a heck of a lot of people out west that have those containers and I keep reading in different sources where they get them delivered for like, $2500.00. Then I check out a few sources on my own and am getting quotes like $4500 delivered. Is there a secret cargo container society brotherhood that only deals with their own kind or what?
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And I get that, but there are a heck of a lot of people out west that have those containers and I keep reading in different sources where they get them delivered for like, $2500.00. Then I check out a few sources on my own and am getting quotes like $4500 delivered. Is there a secret cargo container society brotherhood that only deals with their own kind or what?
The thing to do is keep checking classifieds and craigslist. When someone moves and needs to get rid of one quick, you can pick them up for a good price. Most containers end up in port cities. You just have to keep an eye out.
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I was brain storming about these a couple of days ago.

Take however many you want to build with, put them down on a concrete pad

that is 20 inches wider than the containers all the way around.

Then on that shelf on the outside of the containers, stack straw bales all the

way up and over the top.

wrap it all in stucco lath and apply shotcrete to the whole thing.

Leave window and door openings of course.

Now you have structure with r30 to r40 insulation value.

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I was brain storming about these a couple of days ago.

Take however many you want to build with, put them down on a concrete pad

that is 20 inches wider than the containers all the way around.

Then on that shelf on the outside of the containers, stack straw bales all the

way up and over the top.

wrap it all in stucco lath and apply shotcrete to the whole thing.

Leave window and door openings of course.

Now you have structure with r30 to r40 insulation value.

PJ

Someone posted a link on another thread for the exact thing you are speaking of. It's a pretty good idea.
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