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Old 11-26-2009, 08:30 AM
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Hi, just to let you all know ahead of time I know very little about guns but will give the best information I can. I am looking some information up about the Snake Charmer .410. I found lots of different things through google, but they somewhat contradicted one another.

My brother-in-law is being charged with four felonies. Three of those are possession of a stolen firearm. The other one is possession of a weapon of mass destruction. When he bought these guns from the actual thief, the .410 Snake Charmer was already "modified" or "made" with a short barrell. The barrell length is 10' long. It has a pistol grip. According to those who saw it, it looked to be manufactured that way.

So I'm trying to figure out a few things. First of all, which company actually manufactures and sells these guns? Second, do you have to obtain a permit before ordering it from the manufacturer? And last but most important, I have read on a few different sites and forums that H&R made Snake Charmer Pistols with 8' to 10' barrells. How can I find out if this gun is a pistol or shotgun? Or even get information on what defines a pistol and shotgun?

ANY help will be greatly appreciated. I'm just trying to figure out whatever I can to try and make this less harsh.
Old 11-26-2009, 01:00 PM
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Hi, just to let you all know ahead of time I know very little about guns but will give the best information I can. I am looking some information up about the Snake Charmer .410. I found lots of different things through google, but they somewhat contradicted one another.

My brother-in-law is being charged with four felonies. Three of those are possession of a stolen firearm. The other one is possession of a weapon of mass destruction. When he bought these guns from the actual thief, the .410 Snake Charmer was already "modified" or "made" with a short barrell. The barrell length is 10' long. It has a pistol grip. According to those who saw it, it looked to be manufactured that way.

So I'm trying to figure out a few things. First of all, which company actually manufactures and sells these guns? Second, do you have to obtain a permit before ordering it from the manufacturer? And last but most important, I have read on a few different sites and forums that H&R made Snake Charmer Pistols with 8' to 10' barrells. How can I find out if this gun is a pistol or shotgun? Or even get information on what defines a pistol and shotgun?

ANY help will be greatly appreciated. I'm just trying to figure out whatever I can to try and make this less harsh.
He had this stuff?






I'm impressed! Some people take stockpiling weapons to the extreme i suppose- 10,000 rounds of .556 is one thing; this is a whole different ball game!

I admit that I have limited knowledge of US Federal and state Law (and international law come to that…), but surely you mean 'destructive device'. Weapons of mass destruction are cause enough to start a war, let alone just being 'charged'. I am interested to learn whether I am correct or not here- educate me please!
Old 11-26-2009, 03:25 PM
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Check out the Snake Charmer ll site of Verney Carron and it shows an 18" barrel...

If they were available from the factory with shorter barrels, I seriously doubt it because who would pay the $200 tax stamp for a $50 gun at the time they were locally made...

Didn't H&R make the Snake Tamer and the original was made by H. Koon?

H&R now makes the Survivor

I have never seen or even heard of a pistol version of the Snake Charmer/Tamer which doesn't mean there wasn't one made, but doubtful with the BATF(u)E bastards trolling about...
Old 11-26-2009, 04:41 PM
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Hi, just to let you all know ahead of time I know very little about guns but will give the best information I can. I am looking some information up about the Snake Charmer .410. I found lots of different things through google, but they somewhat contradicted one another.

My brother-in-law is being charged with four felonies. Three of those are possession of a stolen firearm. The other one is possession of a weapon of mass destruction. When he bought these guns from the actual thief, the .410 Snake Charmer was already "modified" or "made" with a short barrell. The barrell length is 10' long. It has a pistol grip. According to those who saw it, it looked to be manufactured that way.

So I'm trying to figure out a few things. First of all, which company actually manufactures and sells these guns? Second, do you have to obtain a permit before ordering it from the manufacturer? And last but most important, I have read on a few different sites and forums that H&R made Snake Charmer Pistols with 8' to 10' barrells. How can I find out if this gun is a pistol or shotgun? Or even get information on what defines a pistol and shotgun?

ANY help will be greatly appreciated. I'm just trying to figure out whatever I can to try and make this less harsh.
LoL - when did they start making shotguns with eight to ten-foot-long barrels?
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What I know about atf abuses of the 2nd amendment are that a 18 inch barreled shotguns are legal and less than 18 inches are 5 years in a federal prison for each charge. there have been no legal pistol shotguns since 1934,that snake charmer has been illegally modifiedThey have been making derringers in a 45/410 configuration but they have a rifled barrel thus they are not a shotgun but a pistol..
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