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Old 11-14-2009, 05:52 PM
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I've been stuck deciding between purchasing a WASR 10 or a MAK 90. My main concern is that the MAK 90 I'm looking at is used and I don't really like buying used firearms. My concern with the WASR 10 is that well...its a WASR. I've heard both ends of the spectrum about WASR's and I just cant figure out which one to get. Im in NY and the price for the WASR 10 (New) was about $550 and the MAK 90 (Used) was $600-$650. I forgot the exact price on the MAK 90. From what I've read about them, the MAK 90 is better than the WASR. But as stated before, its used. Any feedback is welcome. Thanks
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i paid $325 for my wasr-10 back in 05' it works GREAT! it is accurate enough to be deadly for it's intended purpose..
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I've been stuck deciding between purchasing a WASR 10 or a MAK 90. My main concern is that the MAK 90 I'm looking at is used and I don't really like buying used firearms. My concern with the WASR 10 is that well...its a WASR. I've heard both ends of the spectrum about WASR's and I just cant figure out which one to get. Im in NY and the price for the WASR 10 (New) was about $550 and the MAK 90 (Used) was $600-$650. I forgot the exact price on the MAK 90. From what I've read about them, the MAK 90 is better than the WASR. But as stated before, its used. Any feedback is welcome. Thanks
Ther is no comparison here. One thing you need to realize is that the WASR is also USED, they are built from used and/or demilled parts. The Mak is a far better ak and a better investment and that is a good price for one.
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I have both. Get the MAK 90 hands down.
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I have both. Get the MAK 90 hands down.
Yepp hes totally right.
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One more thing to note, since you said you live in NY the mak is most likely pre-ban.
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Get the MAK90.

It is as well built as any AKM-clone on the market today.

There is no comparison to the WASR, the MAK90 is 10X the rifle.
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Can anyone please explaine the difference beween the two guns?
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Can anyone please explaine the difference beween the two guns?
WASR's are built for export. They are not Milspec, the parts are not built to tolerance, many are not of the quality used in military weapons. Compare a rifle built from a Romanian "G" kit, a milspec weapon, to a WASR and you will see a difference.

The actual building of the WASR's also leaves a lot to be desired.

That said, many of them work fine.

A MAK90 is simply a ban-era version of the earlier Norinco imports which were essentially semiauto versions of the Chinese AKM. They added POA stocks, milled off bayonet lugs, ground off barrel threads to make them ban compliant.

MAK90 parts are much more in tolerance, thicker receivers, better FCG's, better fit.

MAK90's also have a proven track record, 15 years and still counting.
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The WASR was also designed to use a single stack magazine. They have been cut out to fit high capacity magazines. The mag well is often out of specs and mags are loose, not all are bad, just be sure to check it out if you buy one. They were mostly built by Century Arms, which is known for its hack jobs..

I would say go for the Chinese.
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Can anyone please explaine the difference beween the two guns?
For one the MAK 90 has a 1.6mm thick receiver vs. the WASRs which is 1mm thick.
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For one the MAK 90 has a 1.6mm thick receiver vs. the WASRs which is 1mm thick.
.....which means virtually nothing except more weight.
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Ther is no comparison here. One thing you need to realize is that the WASR is also USED, they are built from used and/or demilled parts. The Mak is a far better ak and a better investment and that is a good price for one.
I am not sure where you are getting that from, the WASR's imported were made with new parts. They are a low capacity version of the SAR's. They are imported then hacked up here, they normally arent used or demilled parts kit guns. This is how most WASR's were, various calibers but lacking the banned features.

http://www.centuryarms.biz/proddetail.asp?prod=RI1165-N

There has been alot of parts and used guns thrown around, but if you still are looking for a WASR you can find them made with new parts. There are still the low capacity versions floating around states with bans.

The problem is someone cuts the mag well out to accept high capacity mags, then throws a gun back together sometimes using crappy non matching parts or doing a poor job of it. In the least they use US parts, to be within the import laws. If you really want a WASR I would get it from Century Arms, which is scary because like I said they are known for some questionable work. But if you dont chances are it could have been hacked up by someone in their garage.

Century Arms puts them out with new parts, when the ban lifted they started assembling a mixture of hacked WASR receivers and threaded barrels with bayonet lugs. Technically they are new parts but legally they are not new guns. Some I have shot were not too bad at all, but others make me laugh. Its really hit or miss with them from what I have seen, no way I would buy one without a very close inspection.
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MJ, seriously... I know you are 18 and think you know everything because of the Sea Cadets, but it is widely known across the net about the WASR's. I had a "brand new" one from century still with the bar code on it and it had bolt carrier wear.

Have you ever even owned one? Or any AK for that matter?

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OK it seems the MAK 90 wins hands down. I know this is probably a stupid question but is there any way of getting a new MAK 90? I may just settle with a used one but if I can find a new AK within the same price range I know It would be hard for me not to think twice about a used one. I was looking at a new Lancaster AK a few weeks ago and they wanted just under $1000 for it. So I guess the choice has been made for me. MAK 90 it is.
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OK it seems the MAK 90 wins hands down. I know this is probably a stupid question but is there any way of getting a new MAK 90? I may just settle with a used one but if I can find a new AK within the same price range I know It would be hard for me not to think twice about a used one. I was looking at a new Lancaster AK a few weeks ago and they wanted just under $1000 for it. So I guess the choice has been made for me. MAK 90 it is.
They were imported after the 89 import ban, hence the 90 for 1990 when they started being imported with importation ending in 1994. It is possible to find one that was never taken out of the box but that will be very expensive. I am sure that it wouldn't be all shot out but if it is a POS then rethink but I am thinking it is the smarter buy. The Mak-90 will also go for a higher premium if you ever want to get rid of it in the future.

If you are not going to buy it would you mind PM'n me with the name of the store and city that is selling this MAK as I would snag it up in a heart beat.
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MJ, seriously... I know you are 18 and think you know everything because of the Sea Cadets, but it is widely known across the net about the WASR's. I had a "brand new" one from century still with the bar code on it and it had bolt carrier wear.

Have you ever even owned one? Or any AK for that matter?
If you have one made from a parts kit thats great, what I am saying is you can buy one with new parts from Century Arms.

And yes I have a Century Arms SAR-1 and a Norinco AK that has a Saiga style grip and 20in barrel, imported by Interstate Arms. What does that have to do with the question at hand?

Also I am 29, your personal attacks are quite funny though.
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OK it seems the MAK 90 wins hands down. I know this is probably a stupid question but is there any way of getting a new MAK 90? I may just settle with a used one but if I can find a new AK within the same price range I know It would be hard for me not to think twice about a used one. I was looking at a new Lancaster AK a few weeks ago and they wanted just under $1000 for it. So I guess the choice has been made for me. MAK 90 it is.
OK .....................

No new MAK90's, last imported 15 or so years ago. There are some out there like-new, some advertised as unfired. Who knows?

You could always get one of the Arsenal modified Saiga rifles from K-var, cheap at $500 - $530.
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how used is the MAK-90 if it only has around 1000 round shot out of it be glad its just been broken in and you didnt have to spend the cash on ammo to get it broken in now all you got to do is see what ammo the weapon like best and then you'll be in business. i would take the MAK-90 hands down unless it has been abused left in the rain and is completely rusted inside and out then i would have to think about it over a wasr


yes my friend bought a unfired MAK-90 milled at last years spring tulsa gunshow for $700

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If you have a chance to get the MAK 90 for that price - great! For others who are looking for an entry AK the WASR is not a bad choice as long as you can inspect it first.

The WASR-10/63 I bought in 2007 was brand new and with matching numbers except for the US parts. The mag well wasn't done too bad and mags don't wobble that much. Sure, it's a rough looking military style rifle but never has given me any problem. I'm happy with it and haven't bothered to upgrade it except for more comblock mags and replace the ratty leather sling that came with it with a green Romanian version.

I have to say this WASR was a pleasant surprise.
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