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Old 11-09-2009, 06:25 PM
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What would be a better .22 the 250.00 range?
Something with Iron Sights, Steel Receiver, and a simple durable design.
I am looking for a backup rifle for my Marlin 60. Something for LOOONG term SHTF. Like 500,000 rounds. What is the consensus on the Remington 5, the Winchester Wildcat, or the Marlin and the Savages. Cheaper is better but not compromising quality. Thanks guys, I appreciate your advice.
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If you do your homework well enough, you may be able to find 1 new and 1 used marlin 60 as duplicates. From what I hear, the marlin 60 could srurvive maybe 250,000 rounds. IF you really think you need 22lr that much, you may rather get semi-auto to make it more viable as a defensive firearm. 22lr in my book can be stretched to close range defense, but only in semi-auto form in my opinion. Defense is a much more important role than hunting. You can live a day without food, can't live very long if you loose a fight.

I have (2) marlin bolt action 22lr rifles. One magazine fed and one tube fed. They are both 100% reliable and accurate. Definitely worthy of 50 yard squirrel head shots. I do notice the micro rifling of the marlins to foul out quicker than most 22lr rifles. The same goes for the .30-30 models too. My older non-microgrooved starts to wander off at 150-200 rounds in. The microgrove one is around 50-75 rounds. I almost exclusively use CCI standard velocity 500 round pack ammo (green tag rejects and extremely similar to CCI blazer). 1/2 of what I own is by marlin, If they made a 30 cal semi-auto rifle and pump shotgun, then 100% of what I own would be marlin.

For $250, if you find a little bit better deal than usual is the CZ 452 scout 22lr rifle. Very accurate. More accurate than you may need and reliable. CZ makes great stuff. I think some wal-marts sell them, if you like shopping there.

My grandfather on my mother's side has used rifles from their factory for many decades. They make good stuff.

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Hard to go wrong with Marlin bolt action .22 rifles. The Savages are good, too.
You may also want to consider a pump action rifle, I have a Remington that is very accurate. Like the bolt action, the pump will shoot Shorts and Longs as well as Long Rifle cartridges, which I think is a plus. The pump will shoot faster, if necessary.
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http://www.gunblast.com/Paco_CZ452.htm
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You want cheap and works? Look up the Romanian M69 on Gunbroker, great gun, flip up Iron sights, accurate, takes a 5 round mag that is impossible to find replacements for, although I have heard of Marlin Mags working, they avg. about $150. Seriously, even with crappy ammo you will be hitting good groups.
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frankly i would just get another marlin 60
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CZ 452 family. It will shoot better than you and live longer than you. Look on the used gun market, it will be a bit on the high side of your price specs.
Ruger 77/22 can be found used close to your price and it's solid and accurate. If you can do your own triggers (Timney works great for me) you can make it shoot and if you like the rotary magazines you're all set.
Marlin bolt guns are accurate, solid, low cost but mine has a sloppy mag well that allows feeding problems at bad times. For your specs this would probably be a real good choice.
A thousand bricks is a lot of ammo for any shooter but it has been done. Might even be worthwhile researching what todays exhibition shooters are using since that's a similar round count.
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You want cheap and works? Look up the Romanian M69 on Gunbroker, great gun, flip up Iron sights, accurate, takes a 5 round mag that is impossible to find replacements for, although I have heard of Marlin Mags working, they avg. about $150. Seriously, even with crappy ammo you will be hitting good groups.
Agreed. I bought a few of these for $49 (!) when they first arrived many years ago. gave one to my nephew. DARN accurate. I bought extra mags at the time for $15/ea. Glad i did as you can't get extras from e-gunparts anymore.

I've popped some field rats at 25 yards and it is dead on. Killed alot of paper too!
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What would be a better .22 the 250.00 range?
Something with Iron Sights, Steel Receiver, and a simple durable design.
I am looking for a backup rifle for my Marlin 60. Something for LOOONG term SHTF. Like 500,000 rounds. What is the consensus on the Remington 5, the Winchester Wildcat, or the Marlin and the Savages. Cheaper is better but not compromising quality. Thanks guys, I appreciate your advice.
If quality and durability are your most important criteria, I suggest a Used Marlin 39a hands down. Lever action, highly dependable. But best thing is that it still uses iron sights and a real iron reciever. Shoots 22 lr, short, and long. I have had one that was over 50 years old still shooting true. I have shot other 39's over 100 years old and still great shooters.

Simple, Durable, but costly. You can pick one up used though for about 250 with some looking arround. Ohh and you can break it down with a coin for easier transport.

I would say henry also if you are looking for cheaper, but their recievers arent steel anymore. It is some other material painted over. But it is in that price range you mentioned.

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So either the Malin 39 or a Marlin bolt action? The Marlin 39 is a pretty simple action? As in very few moving parts? Really, truly, I'm sure that the CZ would fill my needs, but I'd reather get american if I can.
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Dude, you gotta remember this, if it's new, buy American, if its used buy whatever becaus eyou are buying it from an American.
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Dude, you gotta remember this, if it's new, buy American, if its used buy whatever becaus eyou are buying it from an American.
As much as I agree with you there, I have a hard time buying a second rate product that is overpriced by WHOMEVER makes it.

Pride doesn't equal quality, sadly.

If I had the choice between a Porsche and a Oldsmobile, I wouldn't just buy the Oldsmobile because it's American.

If it's CLOSE, the American product has my vote EVERY time..
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Dirt, I think that's the general consensus. If the product is trash you aren't buying it.
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For under $100.00, you could get a great second hand Marlin Glenfield Model 25. It's a bolt action, 7rd. mag with a grooved receiver for a scope. Mine was the first rifle my dad ever gave me when I was a kid. I still have it and it is a tack driver. I still see two or thee at the local shops and at the gun shows in my area.

You can still find extra mags for between $10-12. I buy them every time I see them.
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That's a good idea Zarr. Easy model # to remember too!
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I, too will back Marlin. I inherited my Father's Marlin 81 whom he inherited from his father. Stock was faded and cracked in places, the outside of the barrel was pitted pretty bad. But I cleaned the bore real good and boy could that thing shoot. I nailed a Raccoon square in the chest at nearly 70 yards without so much as an afterthought. I'm looking into getting a new .22 myself. On the fence of a semi or boltie. Either way I'm leaning towards the Marlin. Or a Savage, both which I can safely say I can trust.
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I found a Chinese made bolt action 22. A J-22 by Norinco I think....
I paid $65 for it at a garage sale. Then I installed a $60 Simmons 22 mag scope with a 1 inch tube.
After a trigger job it turns out the darn thing will shoot half inch groups at 50 yards.
The only negative issue is it has a fairly long barrel.

The magazines are hard to find, but it turns out that the CZ 5 round magazines work just fine. Not that they are cheap either.
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Try Savage. THey have great rifles, and ajustible triggers... THey also have great irons. Im lucky enought to only need them.. savage, and Henry also make good single shots.
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A definite option is the savage mark 2 or the 10/22. Both reliable, both accurate. Both under 250
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One vote for the Savage bolt with accu-trigger. http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/p...IFV+22LR+AT+HB
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