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Old 10-13-2009, 06:26 AM
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I would highly recommend everyone read the fictional story from Frugal Squirrel called "Lights Out". Its about an EMP wiping out the power for the entire USA and describing how a group of people in Texas survive and all the situations they are faced with. It is kind of long, but worth every minute it takes to read it.

You can find it at www.frugalsquirrels.com under their Frugal's friends and free download section.

Although it is only the byproduct of the author's imagination, it gave me some good ideas as well as some things to think about. The story also gave me some ways to change how I had been going about my planning.

Anyway, I hope you all take the time to read the story. Tell me what you think of it.
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Hi there, I remember reading some facts about EMPs on another site and the gist of the post was, the range of the EMP effect was very limited. So a small nuke might only have an EMP effective range of 1 mile. That is, only electronics within 1 mile of detonation would be affected.

Much of the EMP "facts" come from very old (1940s) Army documents which were guesses, at best, not actual measured facts.

However, if a nuke, or EMP bomb, detonated near a power station, every home serviced by that station would have no power.
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It is a VERY VERY GOOD read. I finished it up around 3 months ago and it is a book that really makes you think. It is free online so there is no reason why everyone can't read it. I am reading Patriots right now. Over half way threw this book and it is pretty good as well.
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I just read this a week or so ago- kinda wish there were a few more chapters though.

Patriots is on my bedside table now- that's next after I finish wading through the cooking shows (Good Eats is a good resource for making things from scratch- there's a couple episodes I need to watch and take notes on: bread, pickling, jams. And Baklava. All work and no play, y'know)
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Hi there, I remember reading some facts about EMPs on another site and the gist of the post was, the range of the EMP effect was very limited. So a small nuke might only have an EMP effective range of 1 mile. That is, only electronics within 1 mile of detonation would be affected.

Much of the EMP "facts" come from very old (1940s) Army documents which were guesses, at best, not actual measured facts.

However, if a nuke, or EMP bomb, detonated near a power station, every home serviced by that station would have no power.
Sorry, but I must correct you. A high altitude (above the stratosphere) EMP detonation by one bomb would affect about one third of the US. Three of those, strategically placed, would affect the entire US.

You're thinking of a low yield surface detonation.
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And the likely hood on a scale of 1-10? not very

I read this a while ago fun read


Some good writers here also if you check it out.
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Do some research about Iran's remote detonating around 200 miles into the atmosphere. The Department of Defense is estimating that a smale nuclear warhead remote detonated 200 miles into the atmosphere over Kansas would wipe out power to the entire US , parts of Canada, and half of Mexico.
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I read a week ago to Chapter 20....what comes after that...is there more or did it just not get finished. Would love to read all of it.
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Yeah there is more to the book.... it has about 60 some odd chapters... go to their website and you should be able to download the rest.
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Default I've read it,

And it is a good read, lots of info. if one is interested.

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I liked the book hated the ending! have not heard of "Patriot".
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The link only goes to Chapters 1 - 20 in the download section. Where is the rest? I look forward to reading it.
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I too was a little annoyed with the ending at 20 and not finding more at frugal squirrels, a quick google turned up this: survivalmonkey.com/Lights%20Out.htm

Lots more to read!

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I enjoyed reading this as well. Only one problem in my view. I think that things don't go quite that smoothly. Everything seems to fall into order way to easily. I think that "One Second After" is probably a better representation of what would happen in that type of situation.

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I enjoyed reading this as well. Only one problem in my view. I think that things don't go quite that smoothly. Everything seems to fall into order way to easily. I think that "One Second After" is probably a better representation of what would happen in that type of situation.

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+1. In the real world, the people of this subdivision would have been attacked within 3 days because everyone else wouldn't have a car to go get food and they are going to walk and destroy this upper class subdivision.
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I don't think it was intended to be THAT realistic. It's a good read that gets you thinking about things. A lot of good issues are explored in there. It's definitely worth the read. It's quick and easy to get through.
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The frugal Squirrel site can burn for all I care, those bigoted zealots are way to self righteous for my taste. You even look wrong in there direction they ban you for "Anti religious rhetoric" for asking questions.
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I read the first 20 chapters of Lights Out last week. Lots to think about in there. Glad to know that wasn't the end. Read Patriots a couple of months ago and enjoyed it. Some of it was too technical for me, but it makes you think.
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I did not see where this was mentioned in this thread and the thread title of "Lights Out" by Frugal Squirrel is somewhat misleading.

David Crawford is the author of Lights Out, a story that I have also recommended to others and have read more than once. I would love to see it used as a basis for a movie.
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I liked it too. Lots of food for thought.
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