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Old 09-03-2009, 08:46 PM
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My prepping buddy has been trying diligently to find a set of American made brake rotors. Guess what? They don't exist. Nope.

Brembo, Raybestos, SSBC, Baer, nobody casts rotors in the USA anymore. There are only two brake rotor foundries in the world. One in England (I think they make rotors for European rides) and the other is in China.

Every big name brake company as well as dealerships has readily admitted that all castings come from China. The only "American" component of this whole sham is that some of the rotors are "machined" in the US. Some are machined in China and others in Mexico.

Which China makes rotors, you will notice that they are lighter. However, the thickness of the rotors is the same as an OEM, however, the Chinese models make the air-cooling vanes wider and remove more surface material from each side which is what causes the warping and thus causes your brakes to shutter when applied.

This sucks. This crap can't continue. There will be dire consequences for these actions.
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I agree with your last paragraph Tacoma. A country without diverse manufacturing cannot survive.
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If you can't compete then tank your currency...make an American Peso.
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Its pretty much anything that needs replacement at some time. Brake rotors, axles, bearings, alternators you name it it was remanufactured in China. I go to the junkyard first and try to find a OE part before going to the parts store. Your chances at quality are about the same though.
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I have worked in retail/wholesale auto parts for 11 years. You are right, it is damn near impossible to find american made rotors. Wagner, which is my personal favorite for pads are mostly made in Canad. The ones we sell the most of are made in China. I do however take a little bit from the fact that the steel the chinese use to make the rotors, is amercian steel. Why do you think scrap metal got to be so high, the chinese wanted every bit of it they can get. Someone commented on even remanufactured items being redone in China. Well sure if you go to the big chains like Autozone. My remanufacturer is A1 Cardone. Demand that brand and you are getting parts from a US company with US workers.
It was also mentioned that the new rotors are thinner. You are right they are, but not just from the aftermarket. They are thinner on newer vehicles from the factory. Why? It saves them money on the steel, and later when you come back to the dealership for the shaking in the front end they can try to sell you new rotors. The older vehicles can still get rotors that you can have "turned" back to a smooth braking surface, new ones come so thin from the factory you cannot.
As I said before I have worked in this business for a long time now, and have seen a lot of funny things. One day a gentleman came in, ironically, for rotors on his car, he refused to buy them since they were not made in the US, claiming he only bought Amercian. I looked over his shoulder at his car in the parking lot and said "Ok sir, can I get you anything else then, for your German built VW outside"?..........
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Yep, that minimum wage sure has done wonders for us!
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Thats a crying shame!!!
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AC Delco makes brake rotors in Kettering Ohio. Which is in america.
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You'll have a tough time finding an american made hex nut as well. Maybe some little runs here and there, but nothing enough to make a dent in the overall supply. It's hard to build things without nuts.
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AC Delco makes brake rotors in Kettering Ohio. Which is in america.
Have you looked at a AC Delco rotor lately?
I replaced mine not to long ago and plain as day it had Made in China right below the AC Delco label.

These guys had the same experience.

http://www.gm-trucks.com/forums/inde...howtopic=96653
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Have you looked at a AC Delco rotor lately?
I replaced mine not to long ago and plain as day it had Made in China right below the AC Delco label.

These guys had the same experience.

http://www.gm-trucks.com/forums/inde...howtopic=96653
Maybe the foundry that made the blank is in china? But I know for a fact that the plant by my old house made brake systems and rotors. Perhaps that only meant finished rotors.
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AC Delco makes brake rotors in Kettering Ohio. Which is in america.
Wrong. They are machine in Kettering, OH, not casted.
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Can't even find a place anymore that has a lathe to turn rotors anymore, much less a place that has the lathe and someone that knows how to use it. Oh that's right the China rotors are disposable like everything else.
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Can't even find a place anymore that has a lathe to turn rotors anymore, much less a place that has the lathe and someone that knows how to use it. Oh that's right the China rotors are disposable like everything else.
You're right, with the average passenger car rotor costing 25 bucks, and the average to turn them is 16. Most shops don't even bother anymore let alone the shadetree mechanic.
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Apparently DBA is 100% Australian made. They make some damn good rotors.

As for US made stuff, Powerslot claims "Every Power Slot rotor starts off as a premium blank casting sourced from the best foundries in North America, Europe and Japan." So yeah that probably means Canada. I'd rather support them than the Chinese though.
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It's very sad... Where do we place the blame? NAFTA, greed????

Read the following, it explains a lot about this condition:

http://www.manufacturingnews.com/news/04/1104/art1.html

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It's very sad... Where do we place the blame? NAFTA, greed????

Read the following, it explains a lot about this condition:

http://www.manufacturingnews.com/news/04/1104/art1.html

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Government Greed and Did I mention government.

Companies exist to make a profit, if they can lessen their cost to make a product and sell more or get a bigger profit margin they will.

Government knows better than everyone, and places restrictions.

Without getting in business ethics and since we don't have 1 single government (yet?) Companies looking at having to pay more for that new restriction, go somewhere else so they don't have to pay for it. Three is always someone willing to put up with whatever for all the Jobs and Money that company makes.

Everyone including companies have a breaking point, the difference is big companies can afford to tell the US Government to go screw themselves.
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Wait! Some hope:

It's not American, but at least it is English (EBC) and not Chinese:

http://www.summitracing.com/search/Brand/EBC-Brakes
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Its been a couple of years but the last time I was in the patternshop at AB&I in Oakland, Ca thay had a bunch of patterns for rotors as well as spindles. They may or may not still be making them but they are still in business and still pouring iron.
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