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Old 08-03-2009, 12:47 PM
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What's the difference between these two rifles? Both are chambered for a variety of calibers, including .243, .270, .300 win mag, 30-06, and .308 (that I saw today). I was at Gander Mountain today looking at prices for rifles, specifically Remington model 7-- and looking for a Ruger 10/22.

Remington 770's were all priced at $400, all of them were synthetic stocks. (These were on sale up until August 23rd, about 4 of them on the shelf, all included 3x9 40mm scopes).

Remington 700's that had a synthetic stock were priced around $630. While the R. 700's that had a cherry/ other wooden stock were between $700-999 (mostly were Mountain edition rifles chambered in .308 and 30-06).

I actually found a Ruger 10/22 for $350, first 10/22 i've been able to find at gander. It was a stainless steel barrel with black synthetic stock, and has already been drilled for scope mountings.

Also, I saw a Marlin... I forget the model number... but it was chambered for most calibers between .243 and 30-06 priced @ $350, is that the poor mans rifle? (no scope included, no detachable magazine).

The only thing I can thing of for a difference between the 770 and 700 is maybe the 700 has an aluminum trigger group, or better quality steel, and possibly no burs..

Thoughts?
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The 700 is a far superior gun to the 770. The 770 is still a worthy gun, but not a single part on it comes close to the 700. Actually holding both rifles, and cycling the actions will allow you to feel the difference in quality. The 770 is meant to be a cheaper, beginners rifle. It will do the job, and do it well. But if you want a gun that will last many lifetimes, and keep on trucking, get the 700. I used to own the Rem 710 (which has been renamed the 770) and it was a good rifle, but very obviously cheap. I now own multiple Rem 700's and they are true beauties. There is no comparisons with those 2 rifles...

The Marlin guns aren't bad guns, but again, you will not touch the Rem 700 quality and parts availability.

In short, save your dimes and buy yourself a nice 700, you won't regret it and neither will your great grandkids...
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Thanks for the thread didn't know the diffeence myself.

But before you buy that 1022 check your local Walmart. I bought a SS one for quite a bit less than that. They had 7 in stock at the time.
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I actually found a Ruger 10/22 for $350, first 10/22 i've been able to find at gander. It was a stainless steel barrel with black synthetic stock, and has already been drilled for scope mountings.
Stainless Ruger 10/22 was available at my local Walmart for $234
just a couple of days ago. They all come pre-drilled for scope rails
from the factory. My local Walmart will also order the gun for you
(with a deposit) if they don't have one on the shelf. $350 is way
over-paying for a 10/22 unless its one of the higher end models
(and with a synthetic stock, it doesn't sound like it.)

Agreed on the previous assessments of the 700 vs. the 770.
Straight from the box, the 700 is one of the best rifles available.
My flavor is a .243 with a low-end Bushnell 3x9 that will drive
tacks nuts-on as long as I do my part. Picked up a 770 before
I found the 700 ADL (on sale for $300 at a local Walmart that was
closing out its gun sales operation -- score ). The
770 just felt "cheap".

Off-topic but maybe it will save someone my case of the stupids.
Scope rail mounting on a 700 -- be aware that there are two long
screws and two short screws. Long screws go in the back mounting
holes, the short ones go in the front. Or, you can reverse them
and lock the action up tighter than a bank vault.
THAT was an unsatisfying day at the range. (The long screws
installed in the front will actually protrude down into the action,
and interfere with the movement of the bolt.)
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I heard problem with th 770 stock cracking in higher power calibers like .30-06. Best to get a 700 or if your budget minded, a savage rifle. The most accurate rifle I owned was a 110 savage. Seen plenty of good examples of savages at the range.
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As mentioned, the 770 is the cheap version, lesser quality parts and QC.

The Marlin you found might have been the XL7, which has been getting very solid reviews. Marlin basically took the best ideas from other rifle makers and built the XL series. Inexpensive, plenty accurate for a hunting rifle, good looking, good functioning.
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Thanks for the replies, I'm going to save my money for a 30-06 or .308 rem. 700 :D I can't wait. I thought that 10/22 price was kinda high since I've heard of people buying them at gun shows for $150-ish. None of the walmarts around me (central Indiana) sell firearms anymore, just ammo.
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Friends don't let friends buy their guns from Walmart.

Please, give your gun business to your local gun store. We want the local gun emporium to still be there when we need that odd caliber ammo, or parts and accessories, or just maybe advise from the experts.

Can't get any of that from Walmart.

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I would like to buy guns from a gun store my friend but not all of us can afford that in these times. i just want a decent gun for light to moderate use at a good price.
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There's not a damn thing wrong with purchasing guns at Wal*Mart. Was it wrong to buy guns from Western Auto, Sears, J C Penny, etc back in the day?
Remmy 770 vs 700: for the prices I've seen locally ($329 or so for the 770 and $399-429 for the 700), I'd save the difference and get the 700. I've seen a couple of 770 examples for sale on Armslist and one was an admitted fixer with a broken magazine release. Now, compare that to the mechanically PRISTINE Remmy 700s you see for sale at various sources. I saw a dang FINE .30-06 at a recent gun show for $375. If it were me, I'd get the 700. Period.
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And check Armslist. I see 700s for sale on there for $400 or less regularly.
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Better options than either imo at those price points. Weatherby Vanguard 2, Tikka, TC Encore, Savage, etc... It's 2011, lots of gunmakers out there, put as many to your shoulder as you can before buying.
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I bought a 770 package gun chambered in .30-06 a couple years ago that has been a decent rifle for me. I only bought it because I wanted an -06 and the 700, was out of my range at the time.
I know the 770 is the basement version of the 700 but, it's a good rifle for what it is.
I will say I am not fond of the loose action I have but I've learned to work with it and I can rely on it when needed.
I did find that the scope for the package was probably the cheapest scope that could be put on a gun and it refused to hold zero. I put a different scope on it but have not yet been back to sight it in.
Once done with that I'll have a decent rifle/scope combo for not a lot of money.
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