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Old 08-01-2009, 08:30 PM
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Could you boil acorns to remove the tannin (leaving edible nuts), and use the leftover tannin water to tan animal hides?
Old 08-01-2009, 10:08 PM
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I do not know, but would also like to know. If so, thats a pretty win/win situation.
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You know, some factory, that had a half dozen smokestacks could probably do it, but why?
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Could you boil acorns to remove the tannin (leaving edible nuts), and use the leftover tannin water to tan animal hides?
According to this link it is possible, but they don't give very detailed instructions ...

http://www.jackmtn.com/acornbread.html

I also found this quote from a blog that generally discussed how unsuccessful people had been with various methods of tanning (salting, soaking in borax and using kerosene) ...

"Skin the animal, remove all excess flesh and stretch the hide on a frame. Tannic acid can be obtained by stripping the inner bark from oak trees and soaking it in water. The stronger (darker) the solution, the more effective it will be. The hide should be alternately soaked in this solution then suspended in a shady place to dry. The greater the number of applications, the better the hide will be cured. Tannic acid is also found in chestnut, mimosa, hemlock trees and in tea and acorns."

I usually take try and take a deer over Thanksgiving break ... now I am tempted to keep more than just the meat ... Thanks for asking the question. None of this would have occurred to me.
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Have you thought about brain tanning?
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Have you thought about brain tanning?
I have. This inquiry is for my wife who isn't too fond of pulling brains out of an animal. She's an animal lover.
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I heard you can also use the oily liver.
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I found a couple of books on Amazon, one of them specifically deals with tanning by natural means:

Deerskins Into Buckskins by Matt Richards (this one is also on VHS and VOD)

Tan Your Hide! Home Tanning Leathers and Furs by Phyllis Hobson
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You might also check-out taxidermy.net.
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That acorn needs it hide tanned.
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Ok... U could try it but there are better plants to extract tannin from... I m on my blackberry phone now and have trouble typing.. But I will leave a more detailed post when iget to my cmptr. This wknd... Tree bark has much higher tannin content tho
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Thanks badge bunny,

Jack mountain is so great. Their are tons of oaks around here so I am looking forward to possibly trying acorn bread sometime.
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I've seen this done as a kid but my memory isn't too clear. I seem to remember they used oak leaves as they had more tannin.
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Ok... You want to gather bark in the spring when the sap is out and the tannin content is the strongest.... check out braintan.com..... they have a decent enough section on bark tanning and tannins... for more info on tannins try herbs2000.com ............ acorns are not a good source of tannin for tanning purposes , you will do much better with the bark!!!
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Thanks badge bunny,

Jack mountain is so great. Their are tons of oaks around here so I am looking forward to possibly trying acorn bread sometime.

OK, now you are just making me jealous!
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OK, now you are just making me jealous!
Here ya go BadgeBunny, if you scroll down and look at the Acorn Griddle Cakes that's pretty close to what I made a few times as a kid. I'll have to see if I can find any of my old outdoor books with the recipe I tried.
http://siouxme.com/acorn.html
Here's the Google search for Acorn Bread.
http://www.google.com/search?q=acorn...ient=firefox-a
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If you want to tan with Tannin, you can buy it in bulk in powdered form or you can boil it down from sawdust. You just have to make sure the sawdust is from hardwoods not pine or cedar. You want mostly oak if you can get it but a little bit of other hardwood thrown in won't hurt.
I bark tanned three deer hides last year. You need about a truck load of sawdust to tan 3 hides. Bark chips work as well.You need a large stainless steel container to boil it in. Regular steel pots will put black specks in your leather. I did mine in a plastic garbage can in the basement. If it starts to stink or develop scum on top you need more tannin. You don't wanna start with it too strong though as you can "case harden" the outside of the hide so it won't get struck through properly. Theres some info online about bark tanning but alot of it is gonna be trail and error . I just kinda winnged it and it turned out good. Lotsa bark though ,sheesh.
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Hey, guys, look what I found while looking for a place to buy Arm and Hammer Washing Soda ...

Recipe for tanning hides submitted by a gentleman in Indiana…. Did you know that Fels-Naptha makes a great leather tanning solution??? It's much safer than almost any other (chromium or solvent) method for tanning. In 1980, a friend and I tanned 30 deer hides....some for leather, and some with the hair on for rugs, with great success! The hides with the hair on, STILL retain the hair to this day! Use 1 bar per gallon of liquid....we reduced the bars to shavings first, over low heat (we did this in a big cast iron kettle over a campfire), then allowed it to cool. It turns into a runny "gel". Then the hides need to be fully immersed for 1-2 months, depending on ambient temperature. Just thought I'd pass this along, as I'm preparing to do some tanning again just now.

Here's the link: http://www.soapsgonebuy.com/category_s/8.htm

Interesting, huh??
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It may not be feasible to tan hides with the water left over from extracting tannin to eat the nut. However in a survivalist setting (or any setting for that matter) you would not want waist water. So keep that water and add bark from oak trees and boil the bark to extract a higher consentration of tannin. Also there are other plants very high in tannin you could add to your tannin tea. So I say, "Yea you could dual purpose acorn water. Happy eating acorn bread and tanning." WJRickard
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Thanks badge bunny,

Jack mountain is so great. Their are tons of oaks around here so I am looking forward to possibly trying acorn bread sometime.
Acorn bread is delicious!

After you soak the acorns in water, the water turns brown. This is tannic acid, and yes, it can be used for tanning hides, although it might not be strong enough. (That's where the word "tanning" of hides comes from.) It is also an antiseptic. It makes your skin feel softer and smoother too, although I don't suppose many of the guys here care about that! Your wives would, though.
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