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Old 07-05-2009, 12:00 PM
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I have a gun safe that I made by putting some homemade gun racks inside a freestanding locking wooden closet. Inside, I store a bunch of old military rifles with wooden stocks. It always smells kind of musty and "woody" whenever I open the thing up.

About a year ago, I opened it up after a couple months and saw that many of my guns stocks were covered in gray mold. I wiped it off easily and there didn't appear to be any damage, but it still bothered me.

I just opened it up again today after a few months, and again there is gray mold over all the wood. There doesn't appear to be any rusting to the metal, but again I don't like or understand this.

Why is this happening?
What can I do to get rid of the mold for good?

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too much moisture in the air try a dessicant dryer in the safe or move it to a better area of the house. i had mine in the basement and it did the same thing so i moved it upstairs and problem solved
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Wipe down EVERYTHING with mild chlorine solution and dry thoroughly.

Go to a store that sells guns safes. They carry a small heater called "Dry-Rod". Plug it in to and out let and it takes care of the moisture.
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http://www.goldenroddehumidifiers.com/

I have one safe in the basement and it has a lower humidity in it than the one upstairs.... but this is an old house without central air. There is a dehumidifier in the basement that keeps the humidity about 45%. Both safes have a dehumidifier rod in them.
One has ben working since about 1993 without problems. Since installing the rods I have not noticed humidity higher than about 55% in the one upstairs (less in basement) which seems to be ok as I have not had a rust problem. I tried a dessicant dryer in the upstairs safe before buying the rod and according to the color changing indicator crystals in its top it only lasted about a week before needing a recharge...and no, I didn't open the door often. It must be cooked in the oven for hours and that seemed like the wrong way to go.
I have been buying some large bags of dessicant and leaving them sealed in their packages and adding a couple more ziplock bags just incase. I'll use these if we should lose power for an extened period of time. I might also tape the door crack shut too.

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Be careful with that chlorine solution on blued steel guns!
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Try the heater or dessicant. Also, put your gun in gun socks. I use silicone gun rags and have little problems. Also, on my "Daily driver" guns, I oil the stocks and/or using thompson water seal in the hidden areas. Good old UV light on a sunny day can help take care of that mold.
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.....Why is this happening?
What can I do to get rid of the mold for good?

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Mold spores my friend, mold spores.

You could clean the wood with bleach, but since wood is porous, the old spores will not be killed. Bleach does not kill mold in porous materials, like wood. You need a solution/product that kills mold spores. Home Cheapo now carries products that do that.

Once you kill the spores, you need to seal up the wood, to protect it from moisture. Use a good sealant/paint, and caulk and seal the edges/seams/etc....go nuts. Try to seal ALL surfaces of wood.

Then install a dehumidifier in the room, and also a safe moisture-removal item (as has been already suggested).

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Mold spores my friend, mold spores.

You could clean the wood with bleach, but since wood is porous, the old spores will not be killed. Bleach does not kill mold in porous materials, like wood. You need a solution/product that kills mold spores. Home Cheapo now carries products that do that.

Once you kill the spores, you need to seal up the wood, to protect it from moisture. Use a good sealant/paint, and caulk and seal the edges/seams/etc....go nuts. Try to seal ALL surfaces of wood.

Then install a dehumidifier in the room, and also a safe moisture-removal item (as has been already suggested).

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These guns are pretty old and historic. I don't want to be painting them or putting chemicals on them. If I just wiped away the mold and then put in a dehumidifier, would it be good enough?
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These guns are pretty old and historic. I don't want to be painting them or putting chemicals on them. If I just wiped away the mold and then put in a dehumidifier, would it be good enough?


I actually wasn't talking about painting the guns, I was referring to the gun cabinet/wooden closet:
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Get rid of the wood, and I guarantee that your mold goes away, too.

The wood is the source of your mold.
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may i suggest polygun bags. it's a bag with somekind of chemical cloth inside put the item in the bag, put bag in safe. haven't tried them yet but sounds like a good idea.
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may i suggest polygun bags. it's a bag with somekind of chemical cloth inside put the item in the bag, put bag in safe. haven't tried them yet but sounds like a good idea.
That's a great suggestion to include with the proper treatment of the wood in the closet. Other option is to store them elsewhere....
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moving the safe would be the best cure,however it might be a bit heavy
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Is the area where you keep your guns not air conditioned? Dry out the surrounding air and the mold won't be happy.
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That's a great suggestion to include with the proper treatment of the wood in the closet. Other option is to store them elsewhere....
As I said, the cabinet is just a build-it-yourself deal I got from Wal-Mart. It is made of plywood, but the outside is covered with sort of a giant sticker that makes it look like nice, natural wood. The sticker is very difficult to remove.

It smells strongly of wood inside and also seems damp. How might I "treat" the inside to kill the dampness?
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Is the area where you keep your guns not air conditioned? Dry out the surrounding air and the mold won't be happy.
The room is not normally air-conditioned and the humidity levels are normal. The interior of the cabinet often seems moist, however.
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I think I have a solution: Go buy a gun safe. Put a dehumidifier rod in it.You will sleep better knowing the guns are safer from mold, rust, and theft.
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I think I have a solution: Go buy a gun safe. Put a dehumidifier rod in it.You will sleep better knowing the guns are safer from mold, rust, and theft.
There's your answer.
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I think I have a solution: Go buy a gun safe. Put a dehumidifier rod in it.You will sleep better knowing the guns are safer from mold, rust, and theft.
Sorry Obama, I don't have enough money for a gun safe right now. How about another stimulus?
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I'd sell a gun to buy a safe. You can get something decent for under $1,000. They can be had from Home Depot and Lowes. While they are for sure not a nice as a $4K Fort Knox safe they are miles ahead of a wooden box.

http://www.homedepot.com/webapp/wcs/...atalogId=10053 skip the electronic lock though.


Here is something for about $300. but its not a safe. I also have one of these for my ammo.
http://www.jesseshunting.com/forums/...ternative.html >>>scroll down<<<

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