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Old 05-30-2009, 07:37 PM
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I've been experimenting with shooting Wolf 7.62x39 Russian in my Rem 700 308 deer rifle; mostly because of the price. It has much less recoil than the 308 but the accuracy is poor. Maybe 6" group at 50 yds. The end of the steel case expands (I guess to fill up the chamber gap) but doesn't "explode". I think this could be a viable "crap hits the fans" alternative ammo in a pinch? Is this stupid? Whats says the rest of Survivalistboards?

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I've never tried it but I would think it is pretty stupid. I stick to the guns caliber.
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DUH!!!!!!!!!!! If you want your face restructured I think it is a great idea! If the gun is not chambered for 7.62x39 then don't shoot 7.62x39 through the thing.
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I've never tried it but I would think it is pretty stupid. I stick to the guns caliber.
That was my first thought too but on a recent hunt (this past winter) I ran out of the Hornady 308s that I had in my truck; all I had was a box of Hotshot 7.62x39 for my SKS (That I didn't have with me). There was a huge buck about 75 yards away, that I just could'nt pass up, so that's what I did; I loaded a 7.62x39 into the chamber and sqeezed off the round at the deer. I missed but I also realized that it worked.
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Why would anyone want to put crap wolf ammo in a Remington 700 that is an insult to that fine weapon.
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You cant possibly be serious...
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You may wanna look into chamber adapters for shooting 7.62x39mm through a rifle chambered for 308.

I tried out a 32ACP adapter for 308 in the past, in an attempt to have a fairly quiet small critter getter/ 308 all in one set up, but it didn't work out like I had hoped. Accuracy was horrendous. ( About what you ended up with) I haven't ever used any other adapters.

http://www.mcace.com/adapters.htm


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You may wanna look into chamber adapters for shooting 7.62x39mm through a rifle chambered for 308.

I tried out a 32ACP adapter for 308 in the past, in an attempt to have a fairly quiet small critter getter/ 308 all in one set up, but it didnt work out like I had hoped. Accuracy was horrendous. ( About what you ended up with)

http://www.mcace.com/adapters.htm


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That was my first thought too but on a recent hunt (this past winter) I ran out of the Hornady 308s that I had in my truck; all I had was a box of Hotshot 7.62x39 for my SKS (That I didn't have with me). There was a huge buck about 75 yards away, that I just could'nt pass up, so that's what I did; I loaded a 7.62x39 into the chamber and sqeezed off the round at the deer. I missed but I also realized that it worked.
I'd say you got lucky you didn't have your rifle blow up in your face, and that you may not know yet how badly you've damaged the chamber &/or bore of what likely was a really nice, accurate rifle. You should never take a risk like that, that's the kind of thing that gives the gungrabbers a reason to "save us from ourselves".
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You cant possibly be serious...
as a trained and worked to the point of being bored sniper... yes

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Yes this is stupid.

Dont do it anymore.

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you didn't have your rifle blow up in your face, and that you may not know yet how badly you've damaged the chamber &/or bore of what likely was a really nice, accurate rifle
I guess you are serious.

Yes this is always a good possibility that you might end up getting hurt doing this with out a chamber adapter. I guess this is just a teastemnet of how well fire arms are made. I would imagine its only a matter of time before you get a good shot of gas to the face from a split case, blown primer or some other malfunction. They make excellent replacement parts these days, and plastic surgons can do wonders too, but they arent nearly as good or as fuctional as the OEM parts God gave you.

I can only imagine the damage that a lead casting of the chamber might reveal. You might have saved a couple of bucks a box of ammo, but a new barrel and finish and installation is going to cost a lot more than you saved.

It doesnt suprise me that your getting such crappy groups using the wrong ammo in your gun.
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This is what happens when you shoot non spec ammo through your weapon. I got this from another board, the shooter used hot hand loaded 30-06 with a commercial powder and heavier round. Too much back pressure was too much for the Operating Rod and caused the force to blow back into the receiver and through the stock.

The guy is lucky all he had happen was a few splinters in his hand....



Then again, you are shooting a "lighter charge" in theory.

Personally, unless the metal mosquitos are flying above your head and the best you can get at that current point in time, is a bunch of commie rounds from a dead adversary, I'd stick with spec.
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I've been experimenting with shooting Wolf 7.62x39 Russian in my Rem 700 308 deer rifle; mostly because of the price. It has much less recoil than the 308 but the accuracy is poor. Maybe 6" group at 50 yds. The end of the steel case expands (I guess to fill up the chamber gap) but doesn't "explode". I think this could be a viable "crap hits the fans" alternative ammo in a pinch?
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Another thing for you to consider what you just did to your rifle.

Not all .30 calibers are created equally. Besides the obvious chambering differences your bullet diameters are different.

A 7.62x39 is is actually a .311 Caliber projectile. You .308 Winchester is just that, .308 caliber. So firing a 7.62x39 means you are pushing a bullet .003 caliber LARGER than what it is intended to shoot. If your barrel is chrome lined it would probably suffer more damage from this than a chrome-molly one but I would imagine it will over time at the very least cause early wear if not key-holing.
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That was my first thought too but on a recent hunt (this past winter) I ran out of the Hornady 308s that I had in my truck
Hmm,so...you could'nt hit what you were aiming at with .308 and then decided to risk blindness for life by chambering a 7.62x39 in your .308 all for a friggin deer?

my advice to you is that you sell your guns..all of them...

you are woefully immature to handle firearms safely........
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I recommend shooting .22LR through your .308. If that doesn't work, get ya some .460 Mag Weatherby rounds and see if that works. Just kidding of course. If a kid happens to see you using just any ammo for a rifle chambered for a specific caliber, he or she might think it's okay for him or her to do the same. A shot at a good buck isn't worth the pain your family may have to endure as they stand around your casket.
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Go ahead and do it. even though the bullet will stretch like elastic once it leaves the muzzle it will do what its supposed to and a bit better than the stock bullet.

You are however at risk of a small explosion in your face so get the right chamber adapter for the job and stop risking your life.

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at the very LEAST it will mess up your barrel
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Hey frothy, don't you mean .310 diameter? .311 is for 7.7 jap & 303 brit.

http://www.midwayusa.com/browse/Brow...9785***9016***

but even at .002 oversize extra pressure is a big concern.
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