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Old 05-13-2009, 10:18 PM
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Looking for a decent one. Would like to keep it at or under $ 45.00.

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Old 05-13-2009, 10:43 PM
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Looking for a decent one. Would like to keep it at or under $ 45.00.

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It's more than $45, but the Casio Triple Sensor Pathfinder Watch is the best bet. Maybe you can find a used one on Ebay. They are pretty much indestructable.

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Would like to keep it at or under $ 45.00.
Good luck. Maybe a ebay seller that doesn't know what they got??

I'll be gosh darned, second item on google:

http://www.generaltools.com/Products...__ABAR381.aspx

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It's more than $45, but the Casio Triple Sensor Pathfinder Watch is the best bet. Maybe you can find a used one on Ebay. They are pretty much indestructable.
Post-TSHTF, you want to own a solid mechanical pocket barometer. And no, that won't be available for $45. What you want to own is German precision engineering at its best:

http://www.geology-outfitters.com/default.asp?p=845

or with a photo from the UK Amazon site:




Actually, own two. It's a good $200 investment. One to use, one for barter, when the electronic ones hit the scrap heap.
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How necessary do people believe this is? On all hiking/canoe/camping/hunting trips I've been on I've never carried a barometer. Be prepared, deal with whatever the weather is.

Am I missing something here?
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How necessary do people believe this is? On all hiking/canoe/camping/hunting trips I've been on I've never carried a barometer. Be prepared, deal with whatever the weather is.

Am I missing something here?
A barometer is useful for fishing, google it.
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A barometer is useful for fishing, google it.
So I did look it up and found (very first hit) the relationship of trending pressure to typical associated weather and the effects on fishing. Soooo... this tells me as long as I understand the the weather conditions and the effects on fishing I don't actually need a barometer - I can just look at the sky and feel the temperature change.

This leaves me with my original quandary - I still don't see the importance of a barometer in a survival situation. Not saying there isn't one - I just don't see it yet.

Shed light if you can - thanks.
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I have a triple sensor, gets about 6 years on a set of batteries. I never uses the alarms or backlight. You had better know what you are doing to change them yourself.

My previous Casio didn't have the thermometer. I set the elevation at the Boise Airport, 2 hours later I stuck my foot in the pacific ocean at checked the altitude read O.

Once that older watch started beeping for no reason. Got the book out, it seems that the rapid change in pressure alarm was alerting. The cloud burst dumped like 4 inches of water in the driveway in like the 10 minutes it took to look up the issue and put on shoes to run out and roll up the car windows.

In thick cover or steep narrow canyons your line of sight to see the front coming can be limited, the graphing barometer will tell you a storm front is coming even in the dark.

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I had a Casio atomic watch which I returned. Most of the time, the information in the barometer/altimeter/thermometer was just too off from what I knew were the proper numbers, even after careful calibration and recalibration. These devices are very finicky, and sensitive and things throw them off (like body heat).

I'd recommend getting a nice GPS many of which come with barometers/altimeters built in. That way, you're getting something essential (a GPS) and some secondary items which are nice to have but aren't a necessity.

So Per Ardua is right, there is no truly practical reason to have one for most backpackers. If you REALLY need one, then invest in the scientific instruments for geologists or skydivers cited above, rather than the cheap crap. I also dont recommend the cheapo Sun or REI zipper style thermometers, they are perpetually wrong in my experience.
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So I did look it up and found (very first hit) the relationship of trending pressure to typical associated weather and the effects on fishing. Soooo... this tells me as long as I understand the the weather conditions and the effects on fishing I don't actually need a barometer - I can just look at the sky and feel the temperature change.

This leaves me with my original quandary - I still don't see the importance of a barometer in a survival situation. Not saying there isn't one - I just don't see it yet.

Shed light if you can - thanks.
You are probably a better outdoorsman than I. There are times when barometer pressure drops rapidly in blue skies well before any change in weather (from what I can tell). So I may have more need for such an item than you.
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I had a Casio atomic watch which I returned. Most of the time, the information in the barometer/altimeter/thermometer was just too off from what I knew were the proper numbers, even after careful calibration and recalibration. These devices are very finicky, and sensitive and things throw them off (like body heat).

I'd recommend getting a nice GPS many of which come with barometers/altimeters built in. That way, you're getting something essential (a GPS) and some secondary items which are nice to have but aren't a necessity.

If you REALLY need one, then invest in the scientific instruments for geologists or skydivers cited abovel, rather than the cheap crap. I also dont recommend the cheapo Sun or REI zipper style thermometers, they are perpetually wrong in my experience.
Exactly. If you do decide a barometer is what you want, get a good and mechanical one that you can trust. It's like the camera market, where too many people look for megapixels and zoom rather than what actually counts for picture quality: the quality of the glass and optics. You can find cheap plastic lenses in expensive cameras. Ditto for compasses and barometers: do your research. The barometer I showed above is absolutely solid. Moreover, it is unwise to go for an electronic item when a mechanical one exists when preparing for a SHTF scenario. An electronic one MAY work for some time, a well-built mechanical one WILL work, reliably, every time.
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i use this one: i'm a weather spotter for the NWS and it does almost everything i need. what is missing is a compass so i just got a decent quality small liquid filled one and it velcro's to the back of the weather meter when in use.
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For those who like an electronic solution, the best is probably this top-of-the-line Kestrel. A hand-held tough build military grade weather station, with barometer, wind speed, wind direction and all the works, complete with suggested adjustments for your shooting angle. $600.

http://www.kestrelmeters.com/product...g-ballistics-1
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You are probably a better outdoorsman than I. There are times when barometer pressure drops rapidly in blue skies well before any change in weather (from what I can tell). So I may have more need for such an item than you.
After looking into it some more, one of pieces of info I found was that barometric pressure changes indicate what is going to happen versus what is happening. As mentioned by another poster this warned him of an upcoming burst and allowed him to get his car windows up (translate this to hiking in an area at risk of flash floods). Also his comment re: canyons seems to have merit. I don't tend to find myself in those circumstances but can see some usefulness if you do. Perhaps also more important in a coastal or marine setting...?

BTW, I wouldn't classify myself as a particularly skilled outdoors man - but I do get by (and I sure do enjoy it!).
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http://www.thealtimeterstore.com/sun203m.html
Here's mine. Japanese precision from Sun. No batteries, robust and accurate. I travel in tilted mountainous terrain a lot and use this often to be certain of my elevation.
I consider a good altimeter an absolute must for mountain travel.

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Nice gp100, I have the same. What kind of holster is that? I want one for mine...
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After looking into it some more, one of pieces of info I found was that barometric pressure changes indicate what is going to happen versus what is happening.
Oh I thought this would have been clear. Yes, weather prediction in the absence of other options is the point of having a barometer. That, plus fishing. And while electronic gadgets are definitely way cooler, in a SHTF scenario I rather own a solid mechanical device.
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http://www.thealtimeterstore.com/sun203m.html
Here's mine. Japanese precision from Sun. No batteries, robust and accurate. I travel in tilted mountainous terrain a lot and use this often to be certain of my elevation.
I consider a good altimeter an absolute must for mountain travel.
Looks solid. Your Sun and my Barigo both look good. Interesting: Japanese precision mechanics (Sun) cost $72, German precision mechanics (Barigo) cost $200.
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second JLB for the props for the Casio Triple Sensor, search around on Amazon for a good price. There are many styles. Also download the manuals from Casio. You will find they are all variations of similar models but they do have slightly different features and specifications as well as appearances.

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I've had a Suunto E203 for more than 5 years, and it's still going strong. It can be set to altimeter mode with an elevation alarm for cliff bands etc., or weather station (barometer) mode to track changes in air pressure. I use it for skiing and mountaineering, mostly, but it's handy for rope access work as well. A bit pricey at $150, but a solid instrument.

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