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Old 11-25-2007, 06:26 PM
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It may be illegal but does anyone know how to grow and process penicillin?
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If it is possible, it sure would be nice to know how.
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leave bread in wraper 2 extra weeks.
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My granpa tell me when he was wounden in Russia during WW2, let bread to to get mouldy and put that bread on the wound. The wound have no infection.

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I also have read, if you maggots on an open wound that has started to putrify, they will eat the dead flesh, and leave a clean wound to heal. I have not had need to attempt this myself.
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while i can not personally attest to the maggots thing, during my pre-med classes we used to discuss the history of medicine, and i believe that maggots was a common treatment in the civil war and probably up until WW2 when penicillin was 'discovered'....if you want to waste some time, look up how it was discovered...you're almost sure to laugh
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fresh urine is very good or cleaning a wound
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Some swear by colloidal silver, Although I have the generators necessary to make the stuff and have the commercial stuff in my stores, I find it worthless. Have tried to get it to work for decades. Don't ask me why I keep it around. Perhaps someone else has had some luck using it.
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fresh urine is very good or cleaning a wound
With only one add-on. To be your own urine, not other person urine
No kidding.

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I'd be careful as to what kind of bread you choose to get moldy. I believe that moldy rye bread causes ergot poisoning and can cause you to hallucinate amongst other things. They hypothesize that this was the cause of the Salem Witch Trials.
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^_^ I'll have to keep that in mind when going to the sweat lodge
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It may be illegal but does anyone know how to grow and process penicillin?
not sure why you were asking, but "for educational purposes only" - did you know you can buy alot of antibiotics without a prescription for your pets? most fish stores sell tetrocycline tablets. now a human might need quite a few of these, but if you know your dosages, it could be done.

of course, if it's just about making penicillin, this doesn't help :-)
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you can buy it online

http://scriptsatdiscount.com/iteminf...illin%20online
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Folks,
What about when the drug stores will be depleted and drug factories will be burned or closed? I believe Stoveman question was for this purpose...

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I heard that urine is virtually sterile unless you have an infection.
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I'd be careful in making it. I'd make sure to use USP grade materials and to do so in a safe manner. Personally, I'm allergic to it, so it doesn't do me any good. Vet grade stuff can work in a pinch, but I myself wouldn't try this. Reason is, it's not all up to USP grade. This can make a difference because humans are more prone to problems than animals. Ask a vet. I'm sure they'd agree. We are the top of the top, but we are also, believe it or not, more fragile that most ecosystems.

I'd also be careful with moldy foods. It may cause other problems, even if it works to cure something. Molds give off toxic substances that can harm, if not even kill you.

What I did was to take some Clindamycin and stuff in my pack. I got it because of a heart condition (which has never bothered me) I've had since I was a kid. Need it before surgery, but not anymore according to the medical community.

Other ideas is to try to eat natural foods that help stop such things, like garlic, etc. Check out this link too: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antibiotichttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antibiotic

I myself, don't like prescription drugs, too many side effect. Never heard of one man made drug that doesn't have that quality. I'd try something else natural. Also note that in the SHTF, you may see a lot of antibiotic resistant bacteria. I'm not sure if it'd work. One thing I thought up that would be safe to try...Yogurt.
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Well, the stuff on rye is egot and not mold. Powerful stuff ergot.
LSD would result from laboratory work with it.

The first antibiotics resulted from the observation that a dye caused
germs to die. After observing antibiotic substances being secreted by molds
on agar plate cultures of germs , a plea went out to collect samples from soil and other such places from around the world. Many antibiotics were discovered. Most far too toxic to humans to be of any real use.
Some of the more toxic are with us still as topicals- such as
polymixin in ointments. Terribly toxic to kidneys if used systemically.

Things like penicillin are made from starter cultures that are brewed
in large vats, but the isolation of the antibiotic substances requires a
sophisticated laboratory. Garlic juice, honey, bread mold and other raw sources antimicrobial substances have been used for 1000's of years,
but duplicating modern antibiotics as pills and injectables is far beyond
kitchen labs.
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I have to say this. There is a big difference between what you can do to stop infection from happening, there you have lots and lots of working stuff, and after infection is fact. There you're out of luck. Stay healthy, clean wounds thoroughly and hope for the best.
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Along those lines , let us review some numbers -- 160 degrees F is sufficient for most foods. Boiling for 3 minutes for contaminated water , and 121 C is required to sterilize instruments. Spores. Bacillus (as in antrax) and clostridium (as in gas gangrene) require this autoclaving to kill their spore forms-- notice that 121 is in celcius and would require a pressurized container to reach as we are using steam.

Incidently, it is because of spores that things like sterlized and wrapped
scalpels and such have expiration dates. One day beyond that and you
may introduce spores into your patient. Bacillius and clostridium are bad actors, boy.

Frequent handwashing with good friction for 20 seconds with soap for routine health. Antibactrial soaps do not kill viruses. That is why the friction to
remove is the key. Soap aiding in the physical removal. Hand sanitizers are
approved in most hospitals Handwashing with friction being the gold standard.

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Sugar is a natural antibiotic, was used in the old days, do a web search you will find it a useful item to store.
will try to paste a link http://www.smtl.co.uk/WMPRC/DressingsTimes/vol3.2.txt
Edit. If I remember correctly you pack a wound with sugar and you know it needs to be cleaned out and repacked with new sugar when the old sugar turns to liquid syrup ( dry sugar stops bacteria , liquid sugar promotes it) if memory serves.

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