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Old 01-26-2009, 03:29 PM
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Hey all, it's coyote season up here in Massachusetts, wondering what you guys think of using a 30-30 for them. I've sighted it in for about 110 yards with 150 and 170 grn factory loads. You guys have any ideas or suggestions on what kinda of ammo I should use or any tactics, just lemme know. Thanks alot!

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Predator control? You're fine - go ahead. Maybe switch to LeverEvolution ammo for better ballistics at longer ranges.

Fur harvest - put that down and get a 22 centerfire. Thats what they're built for.

Its pretty darn rare to see one by just walking around. Better to set up a small ground blind and call.

I don't hunt them. See quite a few while driving around. But stop the vehicle and they're gone. Too wary to wait around for you.
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Default 30/30 fine just overkill

Ya I would go to a .223 or a .22-250 for more range just because of so much drop with the 30/30. But have fun.
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If I was to go out with the Hornady LeverEvolution ammo, what would be a good benchmark to sight my gun in at? From what I've seen, they shoot flat at about 150, should I go for 200? Tell me whatcha guys think.

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I would go 223 for coyote personally I would think 30/30 would be a bit of over kill.
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Predator control? You're fine - go ahead. Maybe switch to LeverEvolution ammo for better ballistics at longer ranges.

Fur harvest - put that down and get a 22 centerfire. Thats what they're built for.

Its pretty darn rare to see one by just walking around. Better to set up a small ground blind and call.
I do a lot of Yote shooting and the above advice is pretty sound. Around here a Yote is pretty wary and well educated so I use a rabbit distress call in conjunction with a RC mechanical rabbit to sell my set up to a Coyote into dropping his gaurd against his better judgement and come in for a closer look.
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I feel very comfortable making 100 to 125 yard shots with the 30-30. In your personal experiances, what distance are most yotes taken at?
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I feel very comfortable making 100 to 125 yard shots with the 30-30. In your personal experiances, what distance are most yotes taken at?
Yotes seldom stand still for a well aimed shot during the daytime.
Their bouncing gait makes them harder to draw a bead on than a bouncing ball.
I saw one yesterday while I was going to check a game camera. He came out of a thicket 50yds from me and bounced along across the field. I tried a loud whistle to see if he'd stop. He just turned his head, looked at me, and kept that bouncing gait all the way till he disappeared into the bottomland. Not that I would have shot him, they are part of my sanitation crew, buzzard for the day shift, yotes nighttime.
Like LuniticFI said, distress calls and decoys will give you the best chance.
But I like them around,......hearing them howl at night, makes the world out here seem not so "civilized".
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Hunt them at night, seriously, call them in at night...and around here we mostly use shotguns on 'em. A .22 mag will do them in just fine.

With a .30-30 I'd suggest the 125 grain federals.
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The lightest possible bullet you can get will work if you're calling them you can get ranges of mere feet to 100 yds. If you aren't calling them then the .30/30 would be fine in heavy bush where the ranges are short to begin with but if you're going to be in open farm land or prairie then the suggestion of a small caliber centerfire is probably best--anything from a .17 Rem to a .25 would be fine for range and if you're concerned about pelt damage (for resale or taxidermy) then the smaller and faster the better.

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IF YOUR STUCK USING THE 30-30 PUCHASE SOME REMINGTON 30-30 ACCELERATORS. 55 GRAIN BULLET IN A PLASTIC SOBOT AND THEY GO LIKE A BAT OUT OF HELL.
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Ya I would go to a .223 or a .22-250 for more range just because of so much drop with the 30/30. But have fun.
i agree, the best i have used was an AR-15 (not usually my choice as a hunting rifle), .22 hornet is great also.


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IF YOUR STUCK USING THE 30-30 PUCHASE SOME REMINGTON 30-30 ACCELERATORS. 55 GRAIN BULLET IN A PLASTIC SOBOT AND THEY GO LIKE A BAT OUT OF HELL.
I thought that Remington stopped making them a bunch of years ago and can't find any in their ammunition section of the web site.


Also wouldn't they cause a chain reaction with their pointy heads in a tube magazine! Well, you could always load then one at a time and in that case I'd load with something like a Hornady 110 gr V-Max or SP.
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I can't believe they let you kill animals in Kennedychusets.
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I've got a Remington 700 in .222 that's been a great varmint rifle. My Dad bought it new in the early '60's but hardly used it. Probably had less than 200 rounds on it when I got it. It's great for coyotes.
That said, every meeting I've ever had was accidental either down by the river or loping across the field in the distance. That's why I like the Rem. 700. It's very accurate at distance.
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I can't believe they let you kill animals in Kennedychusets.

It's only legal to kill young, blonde women in an Oldsmobile while you're driving drunk and use water to drown them with in Taxachusetts.
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I thought that Remington stopped making them a bunch of years ago and can't find any in their ammunition section of the web site.


Also wouldn't they cause a chain reaction with their pointy heads in a tube magazine! Well, you could always load then one at a time and in that case I'd load with something like a Hornady 110 gr V-Max or SP.
i'm still able to buy them at my local gun shop in vegas, and no i never have had a problem, the recoil is just not enuf to cause them to chain and go boom.
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Yes, the .30-30 Winchester can be used for foxs and coyote. As far as rounds 100gr Speer plinker over 39 grains of A2015. It will shoot in the 2850 FPS range. Read more about it on WWW.Leverguns.com. Click on articals and read 7.62 X 51R revisited and .30-30 as a varmit cartridge.


As far as Remington 55Gr accelerator round is concerned as far as loading more than one bulliet in the tube magazine, you can load it up for PER REMINGTON factory. For the nose is so soft that deforms easy and with the extremly light recoil it will not chain fire.


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You could load your own spire points just load one in the chamber and one in the tube. The 30-30 is fine on yotes.
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