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Old 01-18-2009, 02:25 AM
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We all know that .243 is the most accurate round there is for hunting Anything. So my question is, Is there a .243 Kalishnikov or AR or whatever semi-auto 30cap mag rifle available, or do you have to have it built from some sort of kit?
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I never even heard of this round...

is this a caliber currently being used by only one or a few particular models of rifle?

if so,its probably not that popular and hard to find which would make it a cost and availability impracticality to even consider using

it wouldnt be worth it
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I did not know that.
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Nope, it aint mil spec, nor common. Anything can be built, but an AR with a .243 upper? Yeah makes sense.

.243 accurate? I would reconsider that seriously. Try google to find WAY more accurate rounds.
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theres an add in the current shotgun news for a ar15 upper for it.
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5.56 and 7.62x54 are extremely accurate. :D
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Um, no.




They chambered some FAL clones in it.
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The 243 Winchester is pretty accurate but I dont know if I would go out on a limb that far though.

I havent seen a AR-15 upper for it, but I do believe the AR-10 had a chambering for this as well as some FAL's. I dont think it ever really caught on as the 308/7.62 NATO over shadowed it in popularity and power.

If your wanting more power than a 223 but dont want a AK 7.62x39 you can purchase uppers for the AR-15 readily in 6mm-223, essentially a 24 caliber bullet in a necked up 223 case. It will push a 80 gr Hollow Point 2780 fps using 27grs of W-748 powder giving 1370 fpe at the muzzle. Compared to the 223 this is a bit of a step up in power even if compared to the heavy bullet loadings. I have dropped a couple of deer and a whole gang of coyotes with this round.

I believe Corbin still makes commecial loads and if they dont this round is easily reloaded using 223 brass which is what I do. Of course this cost a bit more than reloading 223 rounds using bulk 55 and 69 gr FMJ rounds as the 243 bullets cost more.

If your looking for more power than the 223, a flatter/longer trajectory than the 7.62 x 39 but dont want the recoil of the full sized 308/7.62 NATO, this might be a suitable alternative route to go and a easy way to get there reasonably cheap if you already own a AR-15.

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Try the 6.8 SPC instead.
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any rifle is a "assault rifle" if you point it at someone.
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yes there is...it is made by dpms....so they are AR style...they make them in lots of calabers...
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.243 is 6mm. Here is a PDW in 6x35mm

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Actually no, since "assault rifles" are illegal, unless you want all weapons banned.
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DSA has a good selection albeit pricey!

DSA 243 FAL

The .243 is based on the .308 cartridge, so they are not too hard to adjust. Be advised that the sharp neck of the cartridge may be problematic for feeding...just my observation, not actual experience...

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Thanks everyone. That FAL .243 sure looks tempting, but sheesh, the price! And If I ever go that high, I'll have to get all the bells n' whistles to go on in. MOST folding stocks move and aren't comfortable, though I Really want a folding stock to stow away the entire gun in my pack. The gun is 43". The .243 is accurate due to the fact of like lunaticfringe said, the low recoil, easy to shoot. I'm looking at 95 to 100 grain. Also, the FAL requires just about the same amount of maintenance would an AK. I believe that a .243 hunting rifle would be ALL that an individual needs if it came down to One gun; therefore, my desire for a fully tailored .243. It's really the Only gun a man needs, for hunting. Bears, ehn, that's a problem with the .243, but I'll take my chances.
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Um, no.




They chambered some FAL clones in it.

2nd that Um no .... it ain't
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Springfield used to make an M1A chambered for 243 but I have no idea if they still do.
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Actually no, since "assault rifles" are illegal, unless you want all weapons banned.
Wrong answer on all counts, depending on your State of residence. "Assault rifles" by definition have either full auto or burst fire modes. These rifles are controlled by the NFA rules from 1934 and require special forms and a $200 tax stamp.

Whether or not the bogus "assault weapons" (those defined and listed in Clinton's AWB/Brady law from 10 years ago) are illegal depends on where you live. In California I believe they are banned, however in Florida they are not. I cannot speak to the other States, but the blanket statement that "assault rifles" are illegal is not true. It is only valid in some jurisdictions...

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There are AR-10 rifles in 243. The round is to long for a ar-15 reciever. A 243 winchester is a 308 winchester necked down to 6mm. It a decent long range varmint round and a mediocre deer round that is vehemetly defended as a do all, mouse to humpback whale cartridge by some. It is available most anywhere these days, and the cost is relatively the same as other hunting factory ammo, there is just no military surplus. It really don't do anything a 308 won't, just costs more. There are a few states where it is illegal for deer hunting, so you may want to check that out before buying one, if you may want to do that with it. AR-10 mags with a capacity larger than 20 are rare. Any rifle made in 308 can be made in 243
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