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Old 12-23-2008, 09:14 AM
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Source: SPECIAL REPORT submitted 16 hours 27 minutes ago
Meanwhile, the ex-Army Chief of Pakistan General (R) Aslam Baig has said that US General Mullen is pressing our authorities to allow India to hit certain targets, keeping silent and indifferent to the situation as they have been doing in case of US attacks, which he believes, will cool down India and diffuse tensions between the two countries.

I don’t think that conscientious Pakistani nation and brave armed forces of Pakistan will accept such a situation. This will be shameful and render Pakistan submission to India,” the retired General said. While talking to the Nawa-i-Waqt/The Nation.

He further said that the nation would lose its confidence in their government and the armed forces for ever and the nation would stand no where, should such a situation prevailed. He called upon the rulers to explain their position in this regard.

He said that the US was after ridiculing the sovereignty of Pakistan only to please India and Mullen had come with a dangerous message.

“We are ten times more powerful than in 1965 and twenty times stronger than we were in 1971,” the General said.
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“We are ten times more powerful than in 1965 and twenty times stronger than we were in 1971,”

Yet they can't manage to rid themselves of the militants within their borders?
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Where did this report come from?
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Thin air?..........
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It's interesting, but to not post a source link is in poor form.
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Pakistani air force holds exercise: State airline - 2 minutes ago
[link to www.chinadaily.com.cn]

Pakistan jets fly low amid India tension - 10 minutes ago
[link to www.saudigazette.com.sa]

Attack Pakistan, don't warn, says Bal Thackeray - 3 minutes ago
[link to www.daily.pk]

India: World pressure on Pakistan not enough - 10 minutes ago
[link to www.saudigazette.com.sa]
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"The Pakistani air force have been seen visibly in a number of locations flying close to the Pakistani-India border in what is being described as an aggressive patrolling mode, following reports that India is planning pre-emptive strikes against locations in Pakistan, " the reporter said.
[link to www.hurriyet.com.tr]


It seems inevitable at this point. Some nervous finger will get this thing started soon.
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Sounds like they may have a "glowing" future.
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Reminds me of the Cold War.
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Reminds me of the Cold War.
Except this time with short, fat people.
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You can see the battle lines being drawn.
China,Russia,Pakistan,Syria,Iran, and others VS. USA, India, Israel(Great Britain?)
I saw one article that I could not verify that said that Israel will attack Iran by the 27th.

Also with India striking Pakistan in the next day or two.

We all may be busy watching the news over the holidays.

Hopefully there won't be any muchroom clouds.



Under pressure, Pakistan looks to China

17 Dec 2008, 1047 hrs IST, AGENCIES

NEW DELHI: As tensions between India and Pakistan rise in the wake of the Mumbai terror attacks and Islamabad finds itself burdened under
international pressure, it's only in Beijing that it has found solace.

Signing a defence agreement with China on Monday, the two countries publicly reaffirmed their military and security ties, with promises of more Chinese military help coming Pakistan's way. The talks were led by Chen Bingde, chief of general staff of the Chinese People's Liberation Army (PLA), and Tariq Majid, chairman joint chiefs of staff committee of Pakistan.

They also resolved to co-operate with each other to fight terrorism. Majid said Pakistan cherished the traditional friendship and co-operation with China and was ready to make concerted efforts with the PLA to strengthen military ties.

The talks between China and Pakistan, despite the warm vibes between them, were held at the same time when the US deputy secretary of state, John Negroponte, was telling his Chinese counterpart, Dai Bingguo, that Beijing needed to exert its influence on Islamabad regarding the current tensions in South Asia and to push Pakistan to take more steps against terrorist groups on its soil.

While there were few details about the talks between China and Pakistan, it's clear Islamabad is seeking a lot of military help from Beijing including equipment and intelligence. It's also clear that the current crisis with India was the focus of discussions between the two sides.

Beijing regards Islamabad in much the same way as Washington regards Tel Aviv in its national security calculus.

In the aftermath of the Mumbai attacks, China lifted its opposition to proscribing Jamaat-ud-Dawa in the UN Security Council. On previous occasions, including about six months ago, China fudged on banning this group, citing lack of evidence. The Mumbai attacks, however, changed that.

But that does not mean China will not extend covert assistance to Pakistan despite the fact that when President Zardari went to Beijing to ask for financial assistance, he returned empty-handed. Not so the defence establishment of Pakistan, because, sources say, China continues to assist Pakistan in the military sector.

In return, Pakistan tamps down on the Uighur separatists in Xinjiang province, though it's not stopped many Uighurs from training in Pakistani terror camps.

Earlier this year, China completed four militarily important naval frigates as part of an $800 million deal to Pakistan.

Over the past few years, Pakistan has agreed to jointly produce with China up to 250 JF-17 fighter planes in a deal estimated by defence officials to be worth at least $5 billion. In addition, Pakistan is reportedly negotiating the purchase of 35-40 of the J-10 fighter planes which is one of the most advanced fighter planes produced by China.
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Just had a thought.

Wasn't it WISE of our illustrious leaders to allow our manufacturing base to move to CHINA? In a war USA vs. China...they've got all our tooling now.

This was how the US was able to excel after WW2. Europe was in shambles, Japan was under an atomic glow, and with our military build-up and vast new factories, no one else in the world was able to compete with our capabilities.

China....the new super power.
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Maybe going shopping tonight, last few grocery runs didn't include preps

Shame on me!
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1 hour and 34 minutes left until 24 hours are up...
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Pakistani air force holds exercise: State airline - 2 minutes ago
[link to www.chinadaily.com.cn]

Pakistan jets fly low amid India tension - 10 minutes ago
[link to www.saudigazette.com.sa]

Attack Pakistan, don't warn, says Bal Thackeray - 3 minutes ago
[link to www.daily.pk]

India: World pressure on Pakistan not enough - 10 minutes ago
[link to www.saudigazette.com.sa]
Links don't work.
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It seems inevitable at this point. Some nervous finger will get this thing started soon.
Agreed. Either that or someone with an ulterior motive.
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Links don't work.

The bracket is getting thrown into the hyperlink. Once you click those, put your cursor at the end of the address bar and delete the "%5D/" portion.
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This is interesting.

Pakistan Secures Nuclear Sites after Tip Off

Fighter jets sent to counter possible strike | Vigilance enhanced



December 23, 2008
The Post, Pakistan
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ISLAMABAD: After confirmation of a report that Indian and Israeli air forces have planned an attack on Pakistan's nuclear installations, Pakistan Air Force sprang into action by sending its fighter jets into the air to thwart a possible air strike on Monday, according to reliable sources.

Pakistan's Nuclear Control and Command Authority was directed to take necessary measures to deal with any emergency situation.

It has also been learnt that anti-aircraft guns and missiles are being installed at the country's nuclear installations. PAF has been directed to remain on high alert until further orders. After reports of a likely attack, passenger flights to Dubai, India and Lahore were stopped for some time.

Sources said a secret meeting of Israeli intelligence agency Mossad, CIA, FBI, RAW and MI 5 was held in which a possible attack on Pakistan's nuclear installation s was discussed. Fighter jets flew over big cities in Punjab Monday as the armed forces were placed on red alert amid mounting tensions between Pakistan and India after the Mumbai attacks.

Sources in the Defense Ministry said PAF fighter planes flew over Lahore, the twin cities of Rawalpini and Islambad and along the Line of Control with a view to thwarting any airspace violation and checking operational preparedness.

PAF Spokesman Humayun Waqar Zafar said PAF fighter planes were involved in routine flights, so there was no need for any sort of panic or fear.

"In view of the current environment, PAF has enhanced its vigilance," he said.

He said PAF was fully committed and determined to give a befitting response to the enemy.

On the other hand, a high-level meeting under Joint Chief of Staff Committee General Tariq Majeed was held here on Monday.

Sources say that during the meeting a host of issues concerning national security came under discussion.

Gen Tariq Majeed took in confidence the military leadership on various matters including his recent visit to China, sources said.
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Brings to mind the ending of Dr.Strangelove.
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