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Old 12-08-2008, 09:00 PM
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Which manufacturer or manufacturers are considered the best? I am interested in a 20 inch barreled variant, have not decided on flattop or carry handle, although I am leaning toward carry handle.

I have been looking into DPMS, Rock River and DSA. Any thought on these, or other ones that I have not mentioned.

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Stick with mil-spec. The brands you mentioned all are. Colt is not.
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I have a Smith & Wesson M&P. It is right up there with Bushmaster and Rock River. For the money though I think DPMS is a good choice. If you plan on putting a scope or optics on it then I would suggest you get a flat top. You can mount a scope on top of the carry handle but you do not get a proper cheek weld on the stock and alignment with the scope.
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I think anymore they are all the same if you look at who owns who they are the same so what can you afford. I like the DPMS but dont like the one without the dust cover thats there for a reason and I wouldnt own one.

If you can build one I would build and save my money but if you going to buy my list would start.

1-Rock River Arms- They fall inline with most others but I think the top three all rank together.

2-Armalight (spelled wrong I think) I think they are owned by colt. I might be wrong.

3-Bushmaster (Im hearing QC problems as of late) This would be on top but QC problems put it here.

4-Olympic Arms- Life time warrenty I like that. Also great prices.

5-DPMS- Great prices.

6-COLT- To high for what you get over other brands its just a name.

7-S&W M&P (my last choice as they are having big QC problems do a search) Life time warrenty.

If you build right now some kits are on back order. I think www.del-ton.com has a full rifle for a great price check with them.

Always go flat top upper you have more choice and resale value much higher.
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Mil spec is mil spec is mil spec. Dpms really is no better than Rock River, Del-Ton, double star, bushmaster or any other. Some make their own lowers, but most get the rest of the parts from the same military suppliers as everyone else. Chances are any AR you buy will have a mossberg or wilson barrel anyway.
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If you really want some good information on ar15's go to a ar15 website like M4carbine.net

There is a lot of really bad advice on here. Most people on here don't know what they are talking about.

This thread gives a comparison of various rifles and their specifications.
http://m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=6642

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If you are undecided about carry handle or not, might consider one w/a detachable carry handle.

My Anvil Arms M4 is set up that way.

Right now, it is set up w/a red dot on the carry handle. I like it that way since I can still use the iron sights.

If I were to mount a scope, I'd remove the handle (for the reason mentioned in the other post) and put it on the rail.

I can also mount a detachable rear sight on the rail, but I'd have to remove the scope to use it (not see thru), so I still have the option of iron sights if the scope craps out.
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http://http://www.anvilarms.com/c-3-rifles.aspx

I went with the removable carry handle (Options).

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www.mapartsinc.com

Click on kits, they have a ton of good info on everything and I have had good experiences with them when ordering.
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Hey what about Les Baer?

http://www.lesbaer.com/ar223.html
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Colt
http://www.colt.com/law/home.asp
Noveske
http://www.noveskerifleworks.com
LMT
http://www.lewismachine.net
LWRC
http://www.lwrifles.com
POF
http://www.pof-usa.com/
Charles Daly Defense
http://www.charlesdalydefense.com
Sabre Defense
http://www.sabredefence.com/
Armalite
http://www.armalite.com
Smith & Wesson
http://www.smith-wesson.com/webapp/w...&content=11001

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Hey what about Les Baer?

http://www.lesbaer.com/ar223.html
Wow now your talking money. Lesbaer is high and im sure really good stuff but man $$$$$$$.


I myself think just build one save the extra cash and buy ammo and mags. Also if you build you learn the rifle. I sitll have lots to learn about the AR-15 and really the major one I want to do is learn to clean it really good. Im not sure if im sold on the all in one cleaners.
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http://www.colt.com/law/lecarbine.asp my most recent purchase was the Colt 6920
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http://www.colt.com/law/lecarbine.asp my most recent purchase was the Colt 6920
Awesome to say the least.
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Which manufacturer or manufacturers are considered the best? I am interested in a 20 inch barreled variant, have not decided on flattop or carry handle, although I am leaning toward carry handle.

I have been looking into DPMS, Rock River and DSA. Any thought on these, or other ones that I have not mentioned.

John

There is no "best." this argument has gone on forever and will continue forever.

I would do what someone else suggested and join an AR forum. AR15.com, M4 or even the AR15 section over at XDtalk is good. Read up and make your own choice. I've owned Colt's and Smith and Wesson's I like them both.

There are "high end" manufacture's like Noveske and LMT and then there are "budget" manufactures like DPMS and olympic.
What's best for you will depend on A) your budget and B) what you plan to do with it. Is it going to sit in a safe 98% of the time? do you plan to add features like VFG, optics, rails, etc.?


someone break out "the chart" so we can fight over that some more.
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Going the kit route is the lowest cost way:

http://www.model1sales.com/subcats.cfm?Category=01
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Here man... this is the ever so controversial "chart."


Read the whole thread and description of parts.

Also, just to reiterate, the chart shows which manufactures use the most "mil-spec" parts. Mil-spec doesn't necessarily = best.

http://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=6642
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before u buy an ar look at the sig 556......uses ar mags.....accurate and high quality.....
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