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Old 11-23-2008, 11:55 AM
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hey im just wondering about my next rifle purchase. i hunt mostly varmits at my forest area with my cousin.its very fun because you dont know what animal you could find. there are mostly varmits there so thats why ive been thinking about a 223 but i might go deer hunting a little and i guess i could use a 30-30 in the forest. what do you think i should use?
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.223 vs 30-30 I happen to own both. I use my 30-30 for hunting. The .223 for plinking. It has become an economic thing to me. 30-30 the rounds will stop just about any creature under the sun with the right placement. .223 is my range gun and I shoot very often. It has been said before, gun control is simply the ability to hit your intended target. Buy both and we won't have to bail out the firearms industry tomorrow. Hope it helped.
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the problum is that i cant buy both
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Given that information, me personally go for the 30-30 it is a better stopping round. Currently over in the Middle East where we have troops deployed there is talk about sending a bunch of M1's to the front lines because they have better stopping power at a greater distance. Seems that ther is a problem with the .223 in order for it to be effective you have to be closer to the "unfriendlies" and that means that they can utilize RPG's on our boys.
There will come a time when this economy turns around and you will be able to get yourself an addition to your gun cataloge.
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the problum is that i cant buy both
Just go over to Clemson gun and Pawn already and buy yourself a rifle. Make up your mind and go get it. Better yet, go in there, and tell the guy behind the counter what you want to hunt, and he'll hand you the rifle you need for the job.

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Given that information, me personally go for the 30-30 it is a better stopping round. Currently over in the Middle East where we have troops deployed there is talk about sending a bunch of M1's to the front lines because they have better stopping power at a greater distance. Seems that ther is a problem with the .223 in order for it to be effective you have to be closer to the "unfriendlies" and that means that they can utilize RPG's on our boys.
There will come a time when this economy turns around and you will be able to get yourself an addition to your gun cataloge.
Problem isn't the 5.56, its the 14.5 inch barrel being used on the M4, the bullet isn't gaining the velocity needed to fragment when it enters a target.
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go with the 30-30, you can hunt deer and varmit with lower grain bullet. I have used my 30-30 for years and would not trade it.
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In my research on the development of the round .223/5.56. They needed a weapon in then Southeast Asia that would allow our boys to carry a lighter gun and more ammo. The higher velocity bullet was meant to go through the intended target and not kill him, but just to take him and one or two of his compadres with him, and render them "out of action".
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Just go over to Clemson gun and Pawn already and buy yourself a rifle.
hey kahn, if you dont like my threads just dont read them. its that simple.

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Go for the 30-30. You won't be sorry. Just be sure to get extra ammo, ammo, ammo. get some now and get as much as you can...even if it's only 2 boxes a week!

I love my 30-30..only thing i had trouble killing with it was beavers. Tough hides ya know. Had a freind of my nephews last year invite us to one of his 200+ acre timber tracts that had 5 ponds on it to help get rid of them. We hunted from the boat. It was a blast! Got $5 for each tail.
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We're ALL very aware that you have no idea what you want.?
This X 1000......................please get a rifle and learn to shoot .

Yesterday it was .223 , the day before that it was .270 or a 30-06 , then we had the shotgun trade off thread .

Your like a ferret on crack in a room full of shiny objects .

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im wondering if i could use a 20 ga for squirrel hunting.im gonna get a .243 for deer hunting and i already have a pellet/air rifle that i could use too. which should i use
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well after i get my 223 remington 700 sps im gonna trade in my shotgun to get a 30-30
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what is the range of the 308 and should i get a 30-06. how accurate is the 30-06?
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im gonna get a remmy 700 sps .270 or 30-06. i plan on hunting larger game maybe moose. if theres a different caliber i should get tell me.
aint no moose in SC , unless they are hiding on Johns Island

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if i had to go in the woods and only bring one gun it would have to be my remmy 700 sps in .270. i really like the .270. what would you bring and what do you think of the .270.
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i carry a 30-06 remmy 700 sps. dont tell anyone.
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well i have ur gun in 20.ga i use regular old remington 20 ga shells. they work fine.

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If you've ever seen Kevins videos on youtube or even on here, his son has a marlin 336 30-30 and he shot a 6 point deer with it. Its weird cause I'm watching the video before I checked this thread out.

So, check out Kevins videos and you'll learn alot. I know I've learned quite a bit in 12 hours just watchin his videos.
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hey kahn, if you dont like my threads just dont read them. its that simple.

For you,


Now, go, and buy a clue.

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Enough.

Clemsonguy, make up your mind, and confine your questions about "which gun I should buy" in a previous thread you created for that subject.

Kahn, no need to be rude. If you have a problem with a member, instead of bashing him/her, send a PM to a mod or take it up in the grievence section.

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