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Old 11-22-2008, 09:23 AM
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Eric Holder Was a Gun Control Nightmare

Friday, November 21, 2008 11:03 AM

By: Jim Meyers




Barack Obama’s nomination of Eric Holder for attorney general will not sit well with advocates of Second Amendment rights — Holder has consistently championed stronger gun-control measures.

As deputy attorney general in the Bill Clinton administration from 1997 to 2001, Holder “was a strong supporter of restrictive gun control,” according to The Volokh Conspiracy, a Web site that focuses on the legal system and the courts.

He advocated federal licensing of handgun owners, a three-day waiting period on handgun sales, rationing handgun sales to no more than one per month, banning possession of handguns and so-called "assault weapons" by anyone under age 21, a gun show restriction bill that would have given the federal government the power to shut down all gun shows, and national gun registration.

“He also promoted the factoid that ‘Every day that goes by, about 12, 13 more children in this country die from gun violence’ — a statistic that is true only if one counts 18-year-old gangsters who shoot each other as ‘children,’” noted the Web site, founded by law professor Alexander Volokh.

After the 9/11 attacks, Holder wrote an opinion piece for The Washington Post arguing that a new law should give "the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms a record of every firearm sale." He also said prospective gun buyers should be checked against the secret "watch lists" compiled by various government entities.

Earlier this year, Holder — who would become the first African-American attorney general — co-signed an amicus brief in support of the District of Columbia’s ban on all handguns and on the use of any firearm for self-defense in the home.

Holder also played a key role in the snatching of 6-year-old Cuban Elian Gonzalez from his Miami relatives’ home in April 2000, according to the Web site. Gonzalez was to be sent to Cuba where his father lived.

Although a photo clearly showed a federal agent pointing a gun at the man who was holding the terrified child, Holder claimed that the federal agents sent to capture Gonzalez had acted "very sensitively."

David Kopel, author of the Volokh Conspiracy report, observed: “If Mr. Holder believes that breaking down a door with a battering ram, pointing guns at children (not just Elian), and yelling ‘Get down, get down, we'll shoot’ is an example of acting ‘very sensitively,’ his judgment about the responsible use of firearms is not as acute as would be desirable for a cabinet officer who would be in charge of thousands and thousands of armed federal agents, many of them paramilitary agents with machine guns.”

Holder has already come under fire due to his involvement in the Mark Rich pardon in the final hours of the Clinton presidency.

Billionaire Rich renounced his U.S. citizenship and moved to Switzerland to avoid prosecution for racketeering, wire fraud, tax fraud, tax evasion, and illegal trades with Iran in violation of the U.S. embargo following the 1979-80 hostage crisis.

Seventeen years later, Rich wanted a pardon, and he retained Jack Quinn, former counsel to the president, to lobby his old boss.

Holder had originally recommended Quinn to one of Rich's advisers, political analyst **** Morris reported. And he gave substantive advice to Quinn along the way.

Once the pardon was granted, Holder sent his congratulations to Quinn.
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Like this is a suprise, right? Obama-wan-konobie is surrounding him-self with idiots that think like he does. Take a peek at his appointees, Who in the World can believe anything Clinton tells them? The Whitewater files, the sniping incident, the payoffs from the Chinese.

Thank the sheep for the next 4 years.
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For those who still can't see the forest for the trees......WAKE THE **** UP!!!!
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For those who still can't see the forest for the trees......WAKE THE **** UP!!!!
They'll notice when it's to late and the forest in on fire......
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Their dream of getting ALL the guns is just that, a dream. There are people with gun kits stashed away that can have one put together and working in one day.

Go ahead and ban all the guns, then you gotta come get them and won't that be fun.

Once they bring in forces and start killing people it will outrage the public and sniper attacks and ambushes will start.

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HEY ----- OBAMABOTS

thanks fer tha little tinhorned dictator with delusions of godhood

this is change alright
one of Reno's gestapo understudies as the leading law enforcement officer

if they go after our constitutionally protected rights --- does that make you who voted for him accomplices in tha crime?
as far as im concerned it does.
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Funny...where's osamabama's supporters from the board now? Buying more guns?
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Funny...where's osamabama's supporters from the board now? Buying more guns?
I doubt anybody with a three digit IQ actually voted for Bareback. I suspect most folks, with the exception of perpetual welfare recipients and immigrants, were not actually voting for Obama but against McCain in the same manner that people vote against Gore to elect Bush. Obama is not going to be a popular president.
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Glad to see that change ..................

The writing was/is on the wall , odingobama has no spine and is nothing but a libtard puppet .

Let the games begin .
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I doubt anybody with a three digit IQ actually voted for Bareback. I suspect most folks, with the exception of perpetual welfare recipients and immigrants, were not actually voting for Obama but against McCain in the same manner that people vote against Gore to elect Bush. Obama is not going to be a popular president.
Or, he's NOT going to be president?????? hmmm suppose they'll pull the old "alein" born trick?? create chaos and bring in a NWO......with Russia and China leading the way to America's invasion?
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My fil is visiting us for the holiday from DC. We had a very chilling conversation yesterday which I will share.

His mother and grandmother came from Germany right before wwII. They came to escape fascism. The subject of Hitler and what was happening in Germany was discussed at great lengths in the house while he was growing up. We were discussing the present situation with our economy, Obama as president elect and he just blurted out that this is exactly the SAME thing that happened in Germany. He discussed the potential lost of the 2nd amendment and censorship among other things.

The reason that I was so floored by his comments is that here was a man who has never owned a gun, but is considering buying one now because he is so concerned. At that point we (hubby and I) opened up about what we were doing as in making preparations. Not only did he agree, but encouraged us to do MORE.

The conversation was much more in-depth than I can relate here. But I can tell you this. My mother is 69 and my FIL is 59 and they are both saying the same exact thing and giving us the same advice.

If I ever had any doubts about what we believe or what we're doing, they have been erased. Our elders are issuing a grave warning about what's coming. All those sheeple who are dismissing people like us as loonies and theorists can do as they please and bury their heads if they like. All the confirmation I need is coming from my elders.
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Funny...where's osamabama's supporters from the board now? Buying more guns?
not just THIS BOARD, but others too......guess they got their pay and their out their supporting the economy buy buying? sure was alot of "stoolies" around UNTIL after the election
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More like hiding in their closets crapping in their pants







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