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Old 12-03-2013, 05:53 PM
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I saw a Baikal sxs at a gun show this last weekend and to my pleasant surprise it was chambered for .45-70 to my unpleasant surprise it was $900 used, thats not a bad price considering other sxs rifles and its MSRP is almost $1,200 but i wish it was more affordable (for me) because this would definitely add to the cool factor of my collection.
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I'd pass on it. Baikal are roughly finished guns. Nothing they make is worth over $600.

I hunt with 450 marlin, which is pretty much exactly like 45-70. I can shoot upto 200 yards with it if I needed to. I have zeroed it at 150 yards, and it shoots about 7 inches low at 200 if my memory serves me right.

You know Nebraska much better than I do. I'd much rather have something like a 30-06 out there.

For less than $700, you can buy a new marlin 1895 in 45-70. Much rather have that and buy 10 boxes of ammo and some reloading dies for the same price. Not sure about the 1895, but the 336's have excellent triggers.

On hindsight, I wish I just bought a 35 remington marln 336 lever gun over my BLR. I scoped the gun for one reason. The gun kicked way too much. The extra 1.5lb of dead weight calmed her dow alot.
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Yes 30-06 is way better for hunting out here that's why I have one lol, I've just always wanted that big beast of a 45-70, and the double barrel is also just a cool factor for me. I could hunt with it if i wanted to and it'd be cool to have on a boar hunt or something if I ever went out of state but i would rather have the Marlin especially for that money and its definitely still a cool gun.
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One of my customers picked up one of the .30-06 Baikals.

Let's just say I am not impressed.

The extractors are sketchy, the internals are as rough as corn cobs, accuracy is only adequate so far, despite handloading, and the fit and finish is highly reminiscent of an AK.

Caveat emptor.
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I looked at these several years back. (I own a 28 ga Baikal) They were making the guns in 30-06 and 45-70. There were evidently some issues with production relating to pressure on the '06 and with the regulation screw and it's functioning (that's why they can selll it cheaper than the higher end sxs rifles).
With that said, I tried to get my hands on one several years ago and the MSRP was $650-699 IIRC. They were available via Canada early but I never saw one in the US. Fast forward and Remington bought Baikal or at least the naming rights and were to produce them under the name Spartan. I saw a few on GunBroker and the prices were in the $900-1000 range. I figured if the prices got int he $1000 range, I might as well look into Merkel as you can pick one of those up for $2K+ and the investment side of that brand would likely be better.

Of course, if I ever find one locally for $650 or so, in 45-70, it will probably get a ride home with me.
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The Double is now imported by USSG and sold by Hinterland for $777 and change.
Got one coming, should be here Friday. I am interested to see how good it reallt=y is.

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I've had one from the 1st group imported under Remington's name... I love the rifle, love the 45-70 cartridge, but honestly don't shoot it as much as other rifles, it;s more of a novelty...

as far as description, it is a meld between a side by side & an AK... rear sight is dove tail drift adjustable, front is screw elevation adjustable ( like an AK ) the jack screw to regulate the sights takes a little getting used to, as it spreads the distance between the middle of the barrels, so you can adjust the distance where the bullets would meet, down range... in theory, it's good... in reality, the screw doesn't push ( or effect ) each barrel the same, so you may find having to drift the rear dove tail sight, any time you make a jack screw adjustment...

it's definitely a rifle you want to find a load you like, & stick with it, rather than make adjustments...

mine was not finished ( the black coating ) on the ends of the barrels & block between, for some reason, but also, my wood is almost custom double rifle nice...

over all, I like mine, & BTW ( had it for 3-4 years now ) but paid $350.00 when I bought mine
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My brother had one of the o/u '06's. He never could get both barrels regulated to the same point of aim. That said, I'm jonesing for a baikal 94 in '06/12bore.
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The Double is now imported by USSG and sold by Hinterland for $777 and change.
Got one coming, should be here Friday. I am interested to see how good it reallt=y is.

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One thing that you should all know is that a double rifle DOES NOT pattern to the same hole at ANY distance--they should be apart, parallel, otherwise you will get crossover and that had killed many African hunters.

e.g. You are aiming (the left barrel) at the left eye of a charging Cape buffalo and fire and the bullet misses and hits the animal in the shoulder and you then get stomped and gored.

There should also be a regulated marking on the action's fence or barrel that indicates what powder charge and bullet weight it was fired and regulated (sighted in) with.
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Not a bad price, for a Gun you can buy new for $780 !!

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One of my customers picked up one of the .30-06 Baikals.

Let's just say I am not impressed.

The extractors are sketchy, the internals are as rough as corn cobs, accuracy is only adequate so far, despite handloading, and the fit and finish is highly reminiscent of an AK.

Caveat emptor.
A Turkish gun, with Turkish quality.

One is reminded of the Jezzail muskets of olden times the Arab folks used to run around with, it kinda morphs into the way of Baikal.
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