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Old 06-22-2013, 09:23 PM
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I was looking to get a ak47 and J&G had some aks go on sale so the GP and the wasr 10/63 which were both 800$ but now their 599$ but im not sure which to get the furniture doesnt matter because im changing it with some cool OD furniture so whic will be best? ( the only concern is the receiver has to be stamped to fit the furniture and the GP doesnt say stamped so idk what it is.)

Ak47 GP1975
http://www.jgsales.com/ak-47-gp1975-...i.-p-2128.html

Wasr 10/63
http://www.jgsales.com/romanian-ak-4...r.-p-1055.html

OD green furniturehttp://ak-builder.com/index.php?dispatch=products.view&product_id=30499
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hmm... from the pic looks like they are both stamped receivers (hence the rivets). your furniture will be fine. The GP is century arms which from reviews tend to be a luck of the draw. Wasers are cool, might have canted sights but just adjust them and you will be good. I have a Waser with slightly canted sights yet shoots straight as an arrow. The Wife has a Cugir imported by CAI (not made) and shoots well too.
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I have the GP1975 and consider it well made, tight, and reliable. Never had any problems with it. Of course, other people's experience may differ.
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OP: Look at J&G and see if they have the Zastava M70s. Those are Yugo-pattern and $599 as well. Those are imported by Century as well and feature the heavier 1.5mm receiver but the barrel isn't chrome-lined if that's a deal-breaker. I'm looking at their M64s personally, but trying to get someone to deal with CA's BS while the state is going full-on batsh!t won't be easy.
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Wasr 10/63. The European hammer forged barrels are better than the us made counterparts.
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Wasr 10/63. The European hammer forged barrels are better than the us made counterparts.
Yeah, I concur, just go with the WASR. While the "infamous hamfisted chimps at Century" did put out some sketchy rifles back in the day, from what I've read and observed personally, they finally got the message and have been putting out better quality products for the past several years. I've had several WASR's, and they all had straight gas tubes and front sight, the rivets were well done, and they were totally reliable. I'd own another in a heartbeat.
Also, with the WASR, you get the original wood furniture. It's cheap and easy to refinish the stocks yourself, and not difficult to make them look really good, plus it's a lot of fun,IMO. If nothing else, it really helps with re-sale value.
Also, those Yugos are nice rifles,too, but if given the choice, I'd still go with a chrome lined barrel ( that Yugos don't have). Also, from what I'd heard, these newer M70's have a standard 1 mm. reciever, rather than the thicker 1.5 mm. reciever that they had several years back. I could be wrong about that, but that's what I'd read numerous times.
Doesn't matter,anyway, because IMO the heavier reciever did nothing but add weight. ( I had an underfolder M70 back in '08.)
$599 doesn't seem too outrageous, considering I'm still seeing these much higher on Armslist.
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I concur on the Yugo M70 being a decent AK. I picked one up for the sum of $600 last august. I am kind of wishing I had sold it for a lot right before I deployed in january.... Anyway, it is kind of heavy, leading me to believe that it is an older model with the 1.5mm receiver. It's pretty reliable, the only feeding issues I've ever had with it were with crappy surplus mags. I bought some brand new Korean ones a while ago, and some cheapo polymer ones, and they have fed flawlessly so far. It's easily accurate enough to hit a 2'x2' steel gong at 300m with the original sights. I don't see myself trying to use it as a sniper rifle, so that is accurate enough for me. I am looking at upgrading the receiver cover to a TWS dogleg, and picking out a good red dot sight. The only recommendation I would make is to not buy an underfolding model. They aren't terrible, but you can't change them, and they are shaky and inconvenient enough to be PIAS.
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Well whats the diffrence between the 2 wasrs they have on their site and one is 600$ with an uglier wood stock and only comes with 1 mag. The other wasr is 650$ but the stock looks nicer and i comes with slanted muzzle break, bauonet, bayonet lug and 1 mag so i dont know which is better if i really need the extras for the extra 50$
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And the cheaper wasr doesnt have s muzzle break ONLY the mag
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I too would go with the Wasr10 over the GP1975 rifle. The Wasr10's Romanian made chrome lined barrel trumps the other rifle's US made non-chrome lined barrel.

The wasr10 has a receiver mounted scope mount. The GP75 doesn't.

You can carefully cut the weld off the muzzle nut with a dremmel tool. Some are threaded underneath some are not. The one I had was not threaded underneath. At this late in the game they are probably not threaded underneath.

Threads can be added. Any muzzle device you add will need to US made.

Stocks can be changed on these rifles. For the Wasr10 with it's foreign made receiver, you need to keep a US made pistol grip.

For an extra $50 check out the Wasr10/63M, it comes with a chrome lined barrel, bayo lug, scope mount, and threaded barrel with slant brake.
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if it is an extra 50 for the waser with threaded barrels do it. you can add a flash hider or even a j break to reduce muzzle rise and that alone would be worth it. the one that is is $50 cheaper with no threaded barrel tells me it might be a Clinton ban import. if that's the case it won't come with your lug or even as cleaning rod ( obviously the most dangerous parts of the gun).
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I was recently informed by J&G Sales that their current inventory of WASR 10/63M rifles have chromed bores and Tapco triggers.
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J&G has the 10/63M for $649.95
http://www.jgsales.com/romanian-ak-4...r.-p-3448.html

Centerfire Systems (no stock but can back order) has it at $599.99
http://centerfiresystems.com/AKAGUN20.aspx


Classic Arms... old pricing of $799 and out of stock.
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