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Old 10-27-2008, 07:49 PM
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how hard would it be to build a Survival Cabin in the mtns like a mountain man?just a basic small setup.any suggestions?i was think about 500 cubic feet,with inground meat and food storage
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If you are doing it by yourself it is pretty hard. Cutting a tree down is one thing but you have to cut it to fit and dig out the cellar you called for. I would invest in some books about the subject like FOxFire. It is easier with 2 or 3 people working.
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There are at least couple of files on that sort of stuff in the Survival Files section that I know of. You might wanna download them.

http://www.survivalistboards.com/dow...do=file&id=793
http://www.survivalistboards.com/dow...do=file&id=792

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A kit can be had for 4000 bucks and it would have everything you needed
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Link? Please.
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i would suggest using as much as nature can provide such as rock overhangs or using the stone from an old stone wall.
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A small wooden shed building would work great. You could get one say, 8x20 and have plenty of room and be able to insulate and install a small wood stove. A 8x20 you could put on a flatbed trailer or have a rollback move it for you if you had to. I have a 10x20 lofted barn shed that will be my home if things get much worse.
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If you're planning on building a log cabin try to not think square. I was not strong enough to lift up the large logs it takes to build a rectangle so instead I built a 6 sided shelter with smaller logs but still got the space I needed. Pulleys are needed for getting the logs up over your head and then something like concrete may be needed for chinking. All and all my little log cabin cost me about $700 and I didn't need that all at once.

Try looking in the do-it-yourself section at the book store. There are usually books there on how to build your own cabin. I have several, myself. This is my favorite:


It has easy to build buildings that don't cost much to build. I have made a few. My favorite is the Hillside Hut which I have built with rail road ties like they suggest and also with some free concrete blocks and glass bricks I collected after a co-worker tore down a barn on his farm.

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Some other options for you to consider is a vertical log structure or stacked cordwood rather than the standard log home construction. I lived in Alaska for 14 years and have seen both of these used effectively.
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I just picked up a book by one of the founders of the Scouts. It's called "Shelters, Shacks, and Shanties: The Clasic Guide to Building Wilderness Shelters." by D.C. Beard and first printed in 1914. Starts with half cave shelters, elevated shelters, and goes all the way to log cabins with a frireplace.

I can't put it down.

$10USD new.
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Thanks for the lead! Shelters shacks and shanties is public domain, and it appears to be on google books in it's entirety! Looks good thusfar! Should provide lots of fun for long summer days!
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Hmm... the dad has an open plot or two of land at the river... this looks fun and useful...
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Don't you need to get permision to build a cabin and would you need to buy the land.
Because if not you could live completely off the grid and have a perfect BOL.
Great idea if you do it please post some pics.
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Great idea if you do it please post some pics.
This is a "kit", a 12x16 storage building with a few additions.
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Bought this and placed it on my 60 acres this summer...it was a nice little place to stay til I left for Iraq...could easily be insulated, add a woodstove, and drag it into the woods...all for just under $4k. Nice sleeping loft...nice porch, too. Many a nice, starlit nights on it with my yellow Lab.
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If you're planning on building a log cabin try to not think square. I was not strong enough to lift up the large logs it takes to build a rectangle so instead I built a 6 sided shelter with smaller logs but still got the space I needed. Pulleys are needed for getting the logs up over your head and then something like concrete may be needed for chinking. All and all my little log cabin cost me about $700 and I didn't need that all at once.

Try looking in the do-it-yourself section at the book store. There are usually books there on how to build your own cabin. I have several, myself. This is my favorite:

Amazon Online Reader : Rustic Retreats: A Build-It-Yourself Guide

It has easy to build buildings that don't cost much to build. I have made a few. My favorite is the Hillside Hut which I have built with rail road ties like they suggest and also with some free concrete blocks and glass bricks I collected after a co-worker tore down a barn on his farm.

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I just picked this book up, thanks a lot for recommending it.
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I have built several small log cabins over the years and currently have two on state land(not supposed to have permanent structures on state land in NY) that have not been discovered for three years. The easiest and most secure one to build would be the hollow cabin. I find a decent sized depression in the ground near or in evergreen trees and build my cabin around it. A "hollow" that is 4 feet deep only requires 3 feet of logs over it to make it comfortable. After the cabin is built I square off the sides inside and sometimes stack rocks on the side getting the woodstove. The other sides can be controlled with stakes driven in every foot or so and plastic placed behind it. The wood stove I use is made from a 35 gallon metal drum, the outside has tarpaper then plastic on the roof then I put wire mesh over this and soil. Herbs and wild edibles can be seeded on top and it helps with the camouflage. I use a half sized door on the side with a dug out spot to reach it. I am 6'4" and this suits me quite well. A root cellar can be dug behind any wall for underground storage. I use old milk cans to store ammo and sleeping bags.
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Thanks for the lead! Shelters shacks and shanties is public domain, and it appears to be on google books in it's entirety! Looks good thusfar! Should provide lots of fun for long summer days!
A link for the lazy... It seems like the whole book is accessible.

http://books.google.com/books?id=ZOT...result#PPP1,M1

Edit: found out it skips small chunks of the book when browsing. Still a good read though, and does not seem outdated at all. Of course, shelters have been around for a while...

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Skullywv and Upstate, those look good, envy you guys that can do this.
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I'm planning an 8x18 movable cabin on my property. The county I bought in has strict building codes. I can't put a culvert in till I have well and septic permits. My property borders National forest, I may look around for a hidden cabin on the National forest. Glad I found this site. Trying to get my posts up to download those 2 articles.
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