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Old 12-26-2012, 02:34 PM
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I would like to buy a gun on armslist that is out of state. He said, he would ship to an ffl of my choice once he received payment. I don't feel comfortable doing sending a check in hopes that he will actually send out my rifle. I suggested C.O.D (cash on delivery) through UPS, but he said he did not feel comfortable doing it that way. Is there a way to do this transaction where both parties won't feel like they are going to get ripped off? I thought C.O.D was the way to handle something like this, because if UPS doesn't get the money for the seller they send the item back to the seller.

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Do you have a PAYPAL account?

If so, there are some buyer protection options through their service
Old 12-26-2012, 02:42 PM
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I do have a PayPal account, and he suggested that, but my with that route is that once I pay him he could take the money out, and then what can paypal do?
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They can recoup the money if the item is never received. I have had to do it before and got a full refund. I doubt you will have any trouble though.

Does armslist have a seller rating like ebay does? If so, check to see his/her past record to establish whether they are reliable or not.
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I bought a rifle that way years ago. Had my local FFl guy contact the store I was buying from and give a po number. I paid my FFl guy. He said that if the rifle didnt arrive he would just cancel his po. it worked. But it cost me an extra 20.00 to do it that way. Still have that rifle but never will buy another weapon over the internet. Except from say LMT or Wilson. I do not work for them but they have never screwed me either.
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They can recoup the money if the item is never received. I have had to do it before and got a full refund. I doubt you will have any trouble though.

Does armslist have a seller rating like ebay does? If so, check to see his/her past record to establish whether they are reliable or not.
Can they recoup it even if the seller has already taken the money out of the account?

They do not have any type of feedback rating that I am aware of.
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You don't actually buy guns on armslist. Armslist is just to laugh at, and make you feel better about the purchases you have already made.
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This gun I'm looking at is a really good deal.
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This gun I'm looking at is a really good deal.
I think you may have just answered your own question there...
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Can they recoup it even if the seller has already taken the money out of the account?

They do not have any type of feedback rating that I am aware of.
I believe so, yes
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FYI paypal has a policy where you cant use them to pay for guns/related items. So they will NOT help you in a firearms deal.

And if your found using paypal to buy a gun you'll get your account frozen
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Yea don't use paypal for a gun. You might get away with transferring the money but there will be no protection, as you would have to say the guy didn't deliver my gun. And that would be the end of that, they freeze your account, keep any money in it, never use it again for anything.

I have sold guns that needed to be shipped by posting on armslist, but theres no protection offered thru armslist, a bit like craiglist in that way. The guy sent me a post office money order, and I shipped it to the FFL he designated. I may or may not be correct, in that if you use a postal money order then screw the guy over, it amounts to wire fraud or something similar.
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It might be best just to go meet the seller at an FFL in their state to make the purchase. Better safe than sorry.
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If he were going to meet the guy then there is no need for an FFL at all.
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If he were going to meet the guy then there is no need for an FFL at all.
out of state has to go thru ffl.


if deals look to good to be true,they usually are.i wouldnt trust people on armslist.
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I don't think it would normally be to good to be true, but with the way things are selling it is a really good deal, but if it were a month ago not so much. Just an okay deal then.
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out of state has to go thru ffl.


if deals look to good to be true,they usually are.i wouldnt trust people on armslist.
Just making sure everyone sees this, agree on both counts.
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The best thing you can do to protect yourself is find out where this guy is located. Then call around and find a gunshop near him, explain the situation to the dealer and ask him to be a mediator or middleman to insure you do not get screwed. you may have to pay him but thats just insurance.

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If it were truly "a good deal" the guy wouldn't even be bothering with an out of state transfer and the firearm would be GONE by now. Be patient, look around locally and I guarantee you'll find something just as good with way less hassle. I know that isn't the question you were asking, just my advice.
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I found this (Pistolpay.com) just the other day. I am selling a firearm and would like to provide the buyer some security. I have yet to use it but it seems legit from what I've read.
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