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Old 09-26-2012, 02:08 PM
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I was watching Discovery How Beer Saved the World. There was a part that talked about ancient egyptian beer containing tetracycline antibiotic. I'm trying to track down the recipe they found and duplicated to make this antibiotic beer.

Any suggestions on how to find such a recipe?
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I was watching Discovery How Beer Saved the World. There was a part that talked about ancient egyptian beer containing tetracycline antibiotic. I'm trying to track down the recipe they found and duplicated to make this antibiotic beer.

Any suggestions on how to find such a recipe?
Naturally fermented beer, as opposed to genetically manipulated beers and kits. The antibiotic properties seemed to have been a derivative of the fermentation process itself. Google, ancient beer recipes.
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Thank you guys for the heads up.
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NICE! One more reason to stock up on beer!
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http://esciencecommons.blogspot.com/...pped-drug.html

That is fascinating...
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"The grain used to make the fermented gruel contained the soil bacteria streptomyces, which produces tetracycline"

It seems it is less the recipe and more the soil and lack of pasteurization that results in the antibiotic. I guess I need to find some soil laced with streptomyces ;-)
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I'm normally not much of a drinker, but I suppose if the beer was laced with antibiotics I'd certainly be making some to have around during illness and injury. I'd love to know what strains of streptomyces have the highest tetracycline production during brewing conditions, and where to get some.
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If memory serves, the brewery is called Dogfish Head Brewery - or something close. Why not google them and ask?? It's not a corporate recipe and if they put is on tv they could may be be inclined to assist you as a home brewer - as long as you don't try and go compete with them.....
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this is interesting thanks for sharing
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I've been looking for that recipe since I saw the show, too, and I've looked up dozens of sources. This article has some of the same quotes from the doc that was in the Discovery program so I'm trusting the source. Like some said above, it looks like the tetracycline comes from the soil not the recipe. http://www.livescience.com/11028-anc...ntibiotic.html
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The brew would not be appealing to modern beer drinkers.

"We talk about this as a beer; it's not a Heineken or Bud Light," he said. Armelagos had his graduate student brew it once, describing the result as a sour porridge.

"They said it's not bad. That's, I think, the best you can say about it," Armelagos said.
That was one of the things I was wondering. A batch of "beer" with a bunch of Streptomyces in it would probably be kind of nasty tasting. That's part of why brewing cultures are babied so much, to keep random nasty tasting bacterial contamination out of them.
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That was one of the things I was wondering. A batch of "beer" with a bunch of Streptomyces in it would probably be kind of nasty tasting. That's part of why brewing cultures are babied so much, to keep random nasty tasting bacterial contamination out of them.
Natural occurring yeasts ofttimes produce way more sulfur compounds. This is prevalent in wine making. Grapes will ferment on the vine, produce alcohol, but taste nasty.

If you ever see a deer staggering through a vineyard, the proprietor has waited too long to harvest.
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