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Old 08-15-2012, 11:53 PM
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Predator Generator engine 212cc, 4000 Watts Max/3200 Watts, Habor Freight sells this for $330 does anyone have feed back on this generator? I never have used a generator before so im a complete noob....What should i be looking for when it comes to this stuff>? just lookin to pwer my ice box and run the lights in my house possibly an 500 btu A/C..... in the wrol.. i know its a little louder than say a honda but i will inclose this to soften the noise. any feed back experiences with this or other gens feed back needed thanks.....p.s trolls no need apply i already read the reviews on there website but those arnt tust worthy they have employees review alot of these products when things are slow.
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Looks like the unit the construction crew were using at he building site last Sat.

The carb started leaking fuel when hot. This was the second carb.

It also would trip the breaker when running a 15 amp worm gear circular saw (1800 watts).

I own several generators and have been using them for remote site construction for 28 yrs. I would not buy cheap units ever.

My primary generator now is a 3 kw Yamaha.
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ALSO FOUND THESE:

Harbor freight Predator 3200 watt generator

4000w max Harbor Freight Predator Generator

Honda EU2000i Gas Generator VS Harbor Freight Tools Generator

Predator 4000watt harbor freight generator


But im still looking for the imput from the prepper community.....plus any nightmare stories with generators nut just this unit inparticular....thanks
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HF stuff is ok for the folks that know how to work within the limitations of what the stuff is. If the OP is not all that handy with a wrench or multimeter, I would suggest buying the likes of Honda or similar. I buy HF stuff all the time but I am a Jack of all trades. If something has a problem I usually can fix it or re-purpose the item to get my money out of it.
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[QUOTE=gearedandready;4515588]Take this for what its worth. There are a lot of HBF critics in this forum. Lots of Nay Sayers. Many however do not own the specific piece of equipment that they critique
http://widgets.harborfreight.com/wsw...2&keycode=1002

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I will agree with that. Most just assume its junk to begin with. If you do get one that has a dual or tri fuel kit offered for it that will be the way to go.
LP gas when stored in a cool or shady place will last bottled up for years and years. Gasoline today with the ethanol blend you will be lucky to get 8 months storage out of it before it turns stale.
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Try this coupon code I found 99094294

With the flat rate shipping the total came to $270.98.


I'm still trying to find this Chonda thing I heard about.

Is there a difference in California approved models? Does it use or save more fuel or quiter?

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Old 08-16-2012, 02:59 PM
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Only rich people can afford to buy cheap junk
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This is the genny I have from Tractor Supply. Never had a problem with it, it gets good reviews. http://www.tractorsupply.com/champio...erator-4434023

Edited to add apology. I thought you were asking about cheap gennys in general. After rereading your post, I have no experience with HF gennys.
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It's been about 20 years since I've researched gennys, but I've had a 4400 watt homelite since that time and it has never failed to start after 3 pulls at the most. We also had an ice storm about 15 years ago and the genny ran for 10 straight days until we got our electric back on. The only break it got was when we went to bed, but the next morning at 5 am, I'd gas it and fire it up.

The It could run our furnace, then when we had the house nice and warm, we'd run the TV, pc, fireplace blower and a lamp or 2 at the same time w/o any problems. The only drawback is that it has no wheels.

But if I had to look for another genny, the first brand I'll check is Homelite. Not even sure they still make them., but from my 60 years of experience, ya get what ya pay for.

Just my $0.02 worth.
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This generator doesn't cost a lot. But ya gets what ya pays for.

Were I looking for a generator, I'd be wanting one of the quiet running inverter generators such as the Honda and Yahama or maybe one of the knockoffs.

The inverter generators tend to have much cleaner, better regulated output. For your toaster, it won't matter. For some of the higher end appliances with electronics, some of the newer tvs, that kind of thing, the contractor type generators may end up causing problems or damage.

I guess it all depends on what you want to do with it. One thing, though, you can run your toaster on the higher end inverter generator. Your contractor generator might fry your tv or your wife's fancy kitchen appliances. Might not. But if there's a chance you could be using it to power higher end stuff at some point, quality generator output would be nice to have.

The inverter generators are usually considerably quieter, too, which I think might have some value if trying not to be noticed.

Best of luck,


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I tried that code it didn't seem to work, but this one did 21389076 for the $289.99 price. Non-California model.
Worked for me on the Cali model just fine. I just tried it again on both and it took off 66 bucks.

99094294 cut and pasted number used.

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This is the genny I have from Tractor Supply. Never had a problem with it, it gets good reviews. http://www.tractorsupply.com/champio...erator-4434023
That's the same one I picked up for a spare when they had a sale on it. I've never had an issue with it. Now if I can only find a propane kit for it.
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Worked for me on the Cali model just fine. I just tried it again on both and it took off 66 bucks.

99094294 cut and pasted number used.

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I have found when ordering online that sometimes you need to delete the cookie from HF in order to get a coupon code to work if you had ordered something previously that use a discount coupon. I suspect that is to prevent multiple purchases using one coupon that does not reset properly.
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My neighbor has a Predator generator from HF, it's louder than my Honda, but he paid a fraction of what I did. I have mine for work (construction), and it gets used daily for months at a time until we get power pulled to a site- often running high load devices like table saws and other power tools.

While testing his generator, I hooked up a Fluke 87 meter to it and found at 107 V we were only getting 52-54 htz. For those that aren't familiar (at least here in the US) everything is designed for 60htz power. This makes everything run less efficient (runs hotter) and is especially hard on motors. By adjusting the carb and speeding up the motor a little, we found a sweet spot putting out 59 htz at 118 volts (with no load). This isn't rare, I have a small Champion generator that needed the same adjustment. I think a part of bringing the cost down is they don't test very many.

Obviously if you are looking at HF for a generator, budget is a concern- so I wouldn't try to steer you towards a Honda or similar model. Just understand they are cheaper for a reason, and work within that limitation. It's better than nothing, so I'd say go for it. I've picked up a few thing at HF and been happy with them. I'm not a fan of their hand tools, but that's just a personal preference.
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I have several generators, including a Yamaha 2k and the one in this thread. I had a leak where the fitting was brazed into the gas tank (which I fixed with JB WaterWeld rather than go through the trouble of taking it back to HF to swap) but otherwise it has been fine. It hasn't had much use, but I have tested it running a variety of gear and it is VERY worth $290, no question. I am tempted to buy another. It is quiet and works well. MAJOR leap forward for HF on these generators.
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Try this website they have kits for multiple models and engines;

http://www.propane-generators.com/
Nothing for Champion generators specifically. A type C might work. Will have to look into that.
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Well paint me blue and call me GearedAndReady!

I did it again and it worked. Cool thank you!
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I put mine through some paces today. The first test will be that first black out after/during a good ole south GA storm.

So far no complaints. Picked mine up for $279 bux. Any questions ask away.
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As a general rule for me I will buy hand tools at harbor freight but usually spend the extra and buy a name brand for high ticket items so that I get a warranty. I don't remember if harbor freight has a return policy but was told years ago that their supplier for electronics had q/a problems, which can be expected with any company.
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As a general rule for me I will buy hand tools at harbor freight but usually spend the extra and buy a name brand for high ticket items so that I get a warranty. I don't remember if harbor freight has a return policy but was told years ago that their supplier for electronics had q/a problems, which can be expected with any company.
They have a 90 day return policy at the store, and you can purchase a 1 or 2 yr replacement warranty.
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