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Old 07-15-2012, 12:25 PM
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I used to be a firm believer in the 7.62 round over the 5.56 but have drifted the other way lately.
  1. Cost
  2. Accessibility
  3. weight
  4. Use of others in my family (wife and daughter)

I'm new on here and imagine this has been talked about.....any thoughts?
Old 07-15-2012, 06:04 PM
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The issues that you point out are good ones. But one that should be talked about is that the two rounds are obviously different in size, weight and penetration abilities. So that automatically means that you have to adjust your tactics on when, how, why and where you use your round of choice. To some of us the idea of changing rounds means changing tactics would be obvious. But to other people the idea is NOT so blatant. So, what change issues would you consider when going from a bigger, heavier round to a smaller diameter, lighter weight round?
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My wife wants nothing to do with the 223/556 but really likes the 10/22 and 8-25 round mags. She also has a mark iii 10/45 and a 870 youth shotgun with a really nice re-coil pad.
So even the 223 is to much for some.
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I used to be a firm believer in the 7.62 round over the 5.56 but have drifted the other way lately.
  1. Cost
  2. Accessibility
  3. weight
  4. Use of others in my family (wife and daughter)

I'm new on here and imagine this has been talked about.....any thoughts?
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There not even on the same level. So can't really compare them. They both have there uses. A .308 is a very powerful round.
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My wife wants nothing to do with the 223/556 but really likes the 10/22 and 8-25 round mags. She also has a mark iii 10/45 and a 870 youth shotgun with a really nice re-coil pad.
So even the 223 is to much for some.
Has she ever fired .223?

I guarantee recoil is less on an AR platform (5.56) vs youth 870 with buck/defense loads.

5.56 with recoil pad, especially with a compensator, is really pretty recoil-less.
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Has she ever fired .223?

I guarantee recoil is less on an AR platform (5.56) vs youth 870 with buck/defense loads.

5.56 with recoil pad, especially with a compensator, is really pretty recoil-less.
No,Your right, now I just got to get her to believe it. What re-coil pad you using on the ar? (It takes her awhile to warm up to new guns)
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.308 is a better round for hunting. Surplus ammo is fairly inexpensive. if your target is hiding behind something 308 is better for shooting through cover. 308 is better at longer ranges which is why the army brought back the m14's in Iraq and Afghanistan.

The main reason why I went with 308 is because I am a hunter and I couldn't see buying a rifle just for target shooting, and the AK didn't have the accuracy that I was looking for.

I've been very happy with my decision. I like to think of the 308 as a 243 necked up to 30 caliber because 243 is an awesome cartridge as well.
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I can get any of the extended family, to include grandkids and the ladies, to shoot an AR in 223/5.56. Starting with 22's and then showing them the mildness of that platform it is pretty easy, especially after they see the youngsters grinning after sending a magful of rounds downrange. The larger calibers not dso much. Even an AR10 is just a bit daunting to them.
I love the 7.62x39, but am finding the 223 has plenty of merit. I will always have something chambered in 308, but it doesn't have to be a primary arm.
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No,Your right, now I just got to get her to believe it. What re-coil pad you using on the ar? (It takes her awhile to warm up to new guns)
Honestly I'm not quite sure, I purchased a Mossberg 590A1 with collapsible M4-style buttstock and it came with one on it. It's probably a good 3/4'' of rubber, and just slips on around the end of the stock. When the woman wants to shoot the AR, I just transfer it over since it's the same stock.

I'm sure it's no different than this
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AR15 = pretty much no recoil...this is coming from a 5'6, 115 pound female (me). Certainly no where near a 20 Ga shotgun...I'll let you know on the 308 in the next couple weeks, have one on the way. However, I do have a 30'06 and if it's around there, while it does have a kick it's fine with proper shooting. My answer...have both!
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Get both, each one has their valid purposes. The .223 is good for varmints, and close range self-defense while the .308 is better for long range or medium sized game. Now if I could only have one then it would be the .308 soley because it is the more capable and versitile caliber.
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there is nothing to keep you from buying and stocking both... i do.
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In the absense of full auto capability, that's why we have the 5.56 in the first place, there is no reason to choose the lighter caliber.
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