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Old 07-08-2012, 10:05 PM
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I want to build some drawstring barter bags, let me explain my premise to you.

I want to have around 4 to 5 premade inexpensive mini disposiable 24-72 hour bob bags. These bags will live in my car in a small plastic tub ready should the shtf I can trade with any sheepie I may need materials or services from. Gold is nice along with silver but I think a practical mini bob will sway people more than something they can use later. But I do have some cash in my own bob. This is just something extra I can have in my car.

My requirments are the following
Must fit into this

Must have all the basic elements a regular bob should have althoigh smaller, inexpensive and with less comfort.
The cheapest, smallest, and most effective thing to cover the basics
Shelter
Water
Food
Self defense

And if this turns out badass it'll be an easy and cheap to assemble bob for those people you like but don't love, a mother in law, your roommate, etc

Ill start everyone out

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A mini mag lite is the smallest, lightest, and cheapest

What else?
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I like this idea as well I just bought a cheap sewing machine I may try and make bags my self
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Its an easy pattern, I see them a lot from the temp workers at the warehouse we guard.
I want to keep a lot of the love out of these bags.
No love
I want this to be the redheaded step child of bob's

Ill keep this spot saved for the complete list of the "Barter Bob"
Light
Maglite mini

Medical
Badaid travel pack {its like 1.99 at targets travel section)

Shelter
Emergency poncho (3.99 red poncho)
Emergency blankets (looking for a good deal)

Cordage
Dental floss

Repair
Sewing kit (3.99)
Mini gorrila duct tape
2 individual tubes of crazy glue

Entertainment
Deck of cards

Storage
2 1 gallon ziplock bags
2 1 quart ziplock bags
1 55 gallon drumliner

Bag modifications paracord weave wraps, magic marker the grommets. Duct tape the inner seames
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stuff from $ store. Bandaids, rain protection, matches or lighter, they have tuna, chicken. take a walk thru store and I'm sure that you can come up with cheap and smart things to put in there.
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Sounds like a pretty good idea!
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I love the design. It needs a name like "Barter BoB".

Perhaps you could add some flexable plastic shoulder protection sleeves to help displace the weight on the paracord drawsting/straps. Section of garden hose, strips cut from a plastic jug

Majic marker the gromlets black for that taticool look.

$store stuff
Dental floss and 2 sewing needles, several safety pins, 2 tubes of crazy glue, 2 dust masks, small bar of soap, 2ea 1 gal ziplock freezer and 4 quarts, a p-38, mylar space blankets, 2 large trash sacks, roll of toilet paper, sunglasses, deck of cards and sharpie
Old 07-09-2012, 11:33 PM
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Ideas on a type of water bottle and a cheap small knife?
Old 07-10-2012, 12:09 AM
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How about a strip of those water purity tabs. a tea candle, small cheapie hardware store lock blade.

hit up the travel section of the pharmacy for travel TP, and other small toiletries and meds.

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I'm assuming this would be for a short term disaster type scenario, like 9/11 or a big earthquake. Mine would look like this:
Light
Garrity Life Lite disposable flashlight.

Medical
Band aid travel pack
2 4x4 bandages
1 roll of gauze
4 ibuprofen
1 pair of latex gloves


Shelter
Emergency poncho (3.99 red poncho)
Emergency blankets (looking for a good deal)

Cordage
Dental floss
10 feet of clothesline

Repair
Sewing kit (3.99)
Mini gorrila duct tape
2 individual tubes of crazy glue

Disaster gear
1 N95 dust mask
1 pair of cheap leather work gloves

Entertainment
Deck of cards

Storage
2 1 gallon ziplock bags
2 1 quart ziplock bags
1 55 gallon drumliner


Defense
Cheap knife from WalMart

Food
1 can of cheap store brand chili with a P38 taped to it.
1 Snickers bar
5 pieces of hard candy
1 20oz bottle of water (store bought, you have a bottle and clean water for $0.99)

I think this would have some value in a short term disaster situation.

I think you should call them OSBs. That's "Oh S***" Bags.
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dollar stores have just about everything needed for a cheap basic kit.look around the net you can see many survival kit gimmicks,people have been cashing in on this new fad for awhile now.
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Just on lights. I went to the local hardwear chain and they are doing bulk packs of led torches.The brand I got was click. But any would do.
ebay.
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/WHOLESALE...item4cfeb6ceef

Bottle of water.
disposable poncho.
space blanket
lighter
gloves
mask
goggles.
Couple of cans of food.
can opener.

Pocket knives in bulk.
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/3x-POCKET...item3cc82db358

roller bandage. 3 pack.
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Roller-Ba...item3a7544be00
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This is a really fantastic idea

i'd add one of those travel toothbrushes and toothpaste in there too. People underestimate how important dental care really is...
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good stuff, nice thinking
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I think I have enough, ill make the first prototype this weekend

I need suggestions on simple comfort modifications for the bag and more food ideas
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For comfort, it wouldn't be too difficult to make the straps suck less. Off the top of my head, if you make the straps out of paracord, you could fairly easily sew some lightweight foam to something like bias tape, or just sew a fabric tube to slip the cord through. At the end where the grommets are, use something like cordstops to make the straps adjustable.
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The dollar tree near us has aluminum water bottles. They hold about 24 oz & have a tight lid with a o ring.
I would also ad a hat and a pair of sox.
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I'd throw a few water purification tablets in there. Lightweight and a whole package of them would be good for 3 or 4 of your Barter BOBs.

I'd also include one of those small button style compasses.

For food maybe MRE entree's or those emergency rations.

One of those emergency blankets.

Depending on the weather/time of year maybe cheap gloves & hat.
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I think the best lights for this type of (cheap) bag would be the $4 multi-LED lights that are at nothern tool, home depot, etc. Dollar store for food stuff definately, but Northern Tool or such for cheap tools like knives and pliers. Don't under-estimate the value of a pry bar in an urban environment.

If you want to make these little "give away" bags valuable, put some powdered milk in there (the smallest pre-packaged box you can find). Many adults overlook milk as preps, but a mother will recognize..

Whistles
Light sticks
Toothbrush & travel size paste
A brick of matchboxes for $3 at wallyworld
Cheap pocket radios
Ibuprophen
Immodium
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Ill leave this one set aside for pricing and for the "recipe"

So far (tax and shipping not included a also prices are adjusted per item cost the amount added doesn't affect the price)

Per bag price
6.99 for the drawstring bag (ordered through Amazon)
Metal Water bottle 3.49
5 hour energy 1.75
Altoids tin 2.79
Cliff bar 1.00 x2
Honey sticks .99 x4
Gatorade mini energy bar .50
Slim Jim 1.39
Gorilla tape 4.98
Pen light 6.48 or maglite 4.98
Retractable blade 2.98
2 tubes of Superglue .98
Gloves .99
First aid .99
Cranberry trailmix .99
Rain coat.99
Food storage bin .99
Survival blanket 6.99
5 water treatment pills 2.50
Crappy p38 .99
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I'd prefer to have a small bottle of iodine rather than water purif. pills.
Lasts longer for water purifying, more cost effective, has other uses.

BIG trash bags. As many as you can fit in the bag. For shelter.

Lifeboat rations like datrex - many calories there, I think way better than a Snickers Bar,
holds up in heat and lasts longer in storage.

Little soap bars. Disposible razors. (So the poor refugees won't look like determu's icon

A little copy of basic survival information.
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