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Old 07-01-2012, 02:14 PM
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How many of you have used the triple seven pistol powder in your black powder revolvers? Is it really easier to clean up after triple seven.
Old 07-01-2012, 02:25 PM
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I haven't used it in a revolver but I have in my inline .50 and it is very clean compared to Black powder. I love it.
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I have used it before, it usually requires a little different loading data since its hotter powder. I don't use a pure charge of it or pyrodex in my side lock rifle as it doesn't seem to ignite as easy as the real stuff. Seems to work great in the inlines, but you can't use the hotter 209 primers with my rifle. I had alot of misfires, but a 5gr primer charge of real BP then 777 or pyro and it works every time.
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In my experience BP works the best and is the most consistant, it is easily cleaned with water and dish soap or even plain water if soap is not available. The modern synthetic powders work but why pay the added on costs for them. BP will store just as long and be consistant and is much easier to clean. The charges are defined throught the years be it FG, FFG or FFG. The synthetics vary and will clump up wet like kitty litter in the storage cannisters over time rendering them useless. In my opinion if you are going to shoot a BP firearm use black it makes it much simpler and will save you lots of time and consternation in the end.
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One advantage to the 'fake' stuff is availability. Real BP few places carry it at all. For me its a minimum 5 lbs internet order or 1 1/2 drive to Basspro in Nashville. While 777 and pyrodex just about anybody carries that. And yes I can save a buck or 2 on the real stuff, its generally offset by the minimum order or shipping.

Thats not to say I don't like the real stuff, I did a 5 lbs order getting some of the hard to find 1F for loading in my martini. Plenty of those who load 577/450 ammo will say to avoid the higher pressure 777 since your dealing with 100+ year old rifles.
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I have pyrodex 3f from 1985 that hasn't clumped yet, still works satisfactorily for me.
For what it's worth I also live in an earthberm home..
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I have pyrodex 3f from 1985 that hasn't clumped yet, still works satisfactorily for me.
For what it's worth I also live in an earthberm home..
Not saying it will always clump up however if it does it's useless. BP can get wet but once dried is useful again. BP can be fired out of any firearm synthetic gets questionable results at best with anything involving a flintlock and some caplock reproductions. It was produced for the modern inline firearms which were devised to be used during both BP and modern firearms deer seasons. They fit into both worlds and the synthetic powder was also brought about. I'm not saying it's a bad invention but given its limitations and having about 20 years shooting black powder firearms I'll stick with real black, it just works more reliably.
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Not saying it will always clump up however if it does it's useless. BP can get wet but once dried is useful again. BP can be fired out of any firearm synthetic gets questionable results at best with anything involving a flintlock and some caplock reproductions. It was produced for the modern inline firearms which were devised to be used during both BP and modern firearms deer seasons. They fit into both worlds and the synthetic powder was also brought about. I'm not saying it's a bad invention but given its limitations and having about 20 years shooting black powder firearms I'll stick with real black, it just works more reliably.

You are right, It's awfully hard to acquire in some areas though. Hence I mostly use pyrodex in my capguns, cheap, easily available and does a good job for me..However when I acquire another flinchlock, I will have suitable amount of black on hand, It will be a one time order thing in a large quantity..
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I have used triple seven FFFg in an inline. Now, I own a flintlock rifle. I just use goex FFFg in both of them.

Between the two, they both get dirty quick. I do notice the triple seven come out cleaner with one pass of a dry bronze brush. You still need to use soap and water and they both get clean real quick. I pour as I brush or have the bottom of the barrel submerged in water.

I do know folks are concerned about chain fires with revolvers. Triple seven is harder to ignite, which can be a good thing.

I can get goex for $15 + that shipping. Triple seven is not that easy to find. Fire regulations make it difficult for places to keep it. However, they allow the pellets.

When I do see triple seven powder, it's 25-30 dollars a tin. Much cheaper buying the goes and deal with shipping. IF buying goex, I'd buy 1lb of FFFFg while your at it. You need it for a flintlock. I had no choice, I needed to buy FFFFg for my primer pan. So I ordered online.
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I've read that 777 offers 2400 fps velocity? So I dont really think that it's a pistol powder at all. I'd be curious to know if it offers any velocity gain over BP in pistols?
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777 is a rifle and pistol powder. It cleans up with just water off your gun and yourself. How could the velocity from a certain load possibly have any bearing on whether the powder is good for pistol or rifle?? You thought wrong
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name me a pistol powder that delivers 2400 fps, in a rifle barrel, if you can. The pistol powders are designed to maximize velocity in very short barrels. With rare exceptions, firing them in a rifle barrel rarely adds more than 400 fps and that is not common, either. So how many pistol powders deliver 2000 fps in a pistol, hmm?
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777 is synthetic black powder Einstein.
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I use the 777 in a rifle, only thing cabelas had in a powder and not pellet. It does clean up easily.
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The downside to 777 is that it doesn't have the shelf life of either black powder or regular smokeless. Same problem Pyrodex has, or had. I haven't used Pyrodex in decades, so they may have reformulated it.
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