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Old 05-15-2012, 09:49 AM
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Any thoughts on the Mauser K98? I've been looking at investing in one and I just wanted some opinions.
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Fantastic rifles. Virtually all of the modern bolt-rifles are based upon the Mauser brothers design. I only have one Mauser 98 variant currently (Yugo M48), but it's a great rifle. Accurate, and reliable feeding and extraction. For the money, look at the Czech and Yugo Mausers. I've seen a few of the Russian-captured M98s and they were pretty rough. Those are about the only fairly cheap German made 98's left out there.
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I have several of them. I love em'.

Here is a link to our on Mauser Owners Group. http://www.survivalistboards.com/group.php?groupid=334

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I just passed up a deal on an arg. Mauser in 7.62 (.308) due to the fear of over pressure. Was I wrong in this?
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I just passed up a deal on an arg. Mauser in 7.62 (.308) due to the fear of over pressure. Was I wrong in this?
Depends. Was it an Model 1891 or a Model 1909. If it was a Model 1909 then, yes, you were wrong. (M1909 was an intermediate Mauser M98 action, more than capable for the .308 round)

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Are you sure the argentine mauser was 7.62 not 7.65?
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My utility rifle is a Mauser. 1941 production, made before we started turning their factories into rubble. It's had four barrels on it, according to the proofs, and it is quite accurate. Wish it could talk.
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The 98 series Mausers and clones are some of the best bolt guns you can buy. My first was a beat to death Turk (k.kale) Mauser a guy tossed in to seal the deal on an AK I was buying. It still shot great.
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Please don't confuse the K98 with the 1898 series action.

K-98:

Usually already has a bent bolt, small ring inferior design. You shouldn't change calibers with this model as well, it tends to blow itself up when you try to convert to a .308 or something large like that.

Easy to identify because of factory bent bolt, with bolt cutout smoothed into stock, take down uses mid stock mounted 2 pin bolt head, making restocking more time consuming.





1898 large ring mauser: Yugo, authentic german, Argentinean, Czech, etc. Made from basically the same design, very capable of dealing with high powered loads, higher chamber pressures, etc. Came from factory mostly with a straight bolt. Better stronger design than k-98, less rushed production, meaning more care went into the rifle's production. Commonly produced in 8mm. Removing factory barrels sometimes destroys action, dependent upon how tightly barrel was applied at the factory.

Easily sporterized, which has increased it's demand in recent years, action has been copied, and versions are still in current production, though under different names. Example being the Howa 1500 action.
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Mausers are a good gun all around. The large rings are my favorite action to build custom guns on. It's a shame that the supplies of German Mausers dried up. They were solid actions.

I kept a few in 8mm because the cartridge really comes to life when handloaded. The first deer I took as a kid was with a handloaded 8mm round.
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The 98 based action mausers are the best gun you will ever shoot. I trust my K98k far more than any other rifle I have held and fired.
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I have a German K98k that was a Yugoslavian capture/rework. Shop VR69 did the work. She's a beauty.
I'd rather have that than a dozen AR's.
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Please don't confuse the K98 with the 1898 series action.

K-98:

Usually already has a bent bolt, small ring inferior design. You shouldn't change calibers with this model as well, it tends to blow itself up when you try to convert to a .308 or something large like that.

Easy to identify because of factory bent bolt, with bolt cutout smoothed into stock, take down uses mid stock mounted 2 pin bolt head, making restocking more time consuming.




1898 large ring mauser: Yugo, authentic german, Argentinean, Czech, etc. Made from basically the same design, very capable of dealing with high powered loads, higher chamber pressures, etc. Came from factory mostly with a straight bolt. Better stronger design than k-98, less rushed production, meaning more care went into the rifle's production. Commonly produced in 8mm. Removing factory barrels sometimes destroys action, dependent upon how tightly barrel was applied at the factory.

Easily sporterized, which has increased it's demand in recent years, action has been copied, and versions are still in current production, though under different names. Example being the Howa 1500 action.
Sorry, but the k98 is a model 1898. There are the earlier models that aren't as strong as the 98 action but plenty strong enough for the cartridges they were designed for. BTW the bottom picture is of a 96 mauser action. Good rifle chambered in 6.5 swede if I remember correctly.
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I have a 1944 K98 that was reworked to 7.62x51(308 winchester) by the Isrealis. The caliber makes it very practicle. And those folks do good work!!
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Sorry, but the k98 is a model 1898. There are the earlier models that aren't as strong as the 98 action but plenty strong enough for the cartridges they were designed for. BTW the bottom picture is of a 96 mauser action. Good rifle chambered in 6.5 swede if I remember correctly.
Beat me to it.

Plus, there are small ring 98 actions as well, and they have plenty of strength for modern cartridges. If I could lay my hands on a G.33/40 action, I would build up a "mountain" rifle in 260 Ackley. The Mexican Model 1936 is also a desirable small ring 98.
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Ditto the Israeli rework in .308. I'm amazed how accurate this old military bolt gun is.
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Ditto the Israeli rework in .308. I'm amazed how accurate this old military bolt gun is.
98k's are very accurate..........as long as they still have good barrels. The problem is many of them have less than pristine barrels because of the hard use many of them have seen.
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Beat me to it.

Plus, there are small ring 98 actions as well, and they have plenty of strength for modern cartridges. If I could lay my hands on a G.33/40 action, I would build up a "mountain" rifle in 260 Ackley. The Mexican Model 1936 is also a desirable small ring 98.
I'd just love to find one with an excellent barrel..............in original military configuration.
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They are more novelty and collector rifles than something of utility. The rifle itself is a great design. The prices have been going up. A modern bolt action rifle will be just as good. If you plan on scoping the gun, you need to drill into it and bend the bolt down on almost all mausers out there. The surplus ammo is not dried up, but it's close. It's much easier to find good deals on other calibers than it is for mauser ones.

I own a czech mauser. It is a great gun. I have no interests using it as a primary firearm. I reload and have about 100-150 cartridges to fill for it. It is a fun gun. It has a mild recoil compared to other guns. The down side is the sights. They are a little aukward to use compared to what most folks are used to using. The sights are barely adjustable. They have some sort of dovetail on the front sight that is peened shut with a punch.

Got firearms to suit almost any need you can think of, fine get that mauser for a nice collectors piece. Need this firearm purchase to fit a particular purpose other than casual practice, then find something else to fill the need.

I paid $300 for my 1938 czech vz24. Excellent wood, almost brand new bluing, shoot 3-4" groups at 100 yards with iron sights. The sights are not perfectly on, but close enough to reliably hit a soda can at 50 yards.

Some mausers are converted to highly accurate target rifles. While the interest in a custom rifle will never be filled by a commercial one, a very accurate commercial rifle be be purchased for roughly half the price it would cost to make a run of the mill no frills custom mauser rifle in a modern caliber.

Far as hunting with a mauser, I got two issues with it. I like to roam while I hunt. The mauser is a heavy gun compared to other rifles I have. Big game frequently come out in the extremes of the day, mainly low light. You can line up a rifle and make a decent shoot with iron sights. However, to make a really good placed shot in low light, a scope offer much more of a chance at that. Aiming at brown fur in low light with black sight when the gap between the front and rear sights left ot right is small is real tough.

I bought a lyman peep sight for mine. The gun is too nice to be drilling into.

Buy a mosin with a decent bore and hack away. Nice mausers are harder to find. There is little new ones out there.

A swedish K31 rifle is another great choice out there. Surplus ammo is about the same availabilty. However, for some reason it is real easy to find a great shoot and good looking K31 for a good price.
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I know I have a Turkish Mauser in mint condition all numbers match parts from Germany and assemblies in Turkey. It shoots awesome, very accurate. I got it because the customer did not want to pay for the refurb.

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