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Old 05-02-2012, 08:51 PM
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I have a pretty simple question regarding what I see as the ever-so-slow transition from working a 9-5 job to "living off the grid" I understand this will take years to accomplish but to put things into perspective I'd like to compile a list of things that can be done to earn money, outside of working for someone else.

After\During establishing permaculture techniques, creating suitable living quarters (paid for, no mortgage), securing and storing a good water supply one is obviously still going to need to buy clothes, tools, guns, ammo etc.

So my question is can you all help me out with ways to make money in a country setting. So far I've come up with a pretty wimpy list.

1. Honey
2. Soap
3. Sheep's wool?
4. Wood crafts (walking sticks, birdhouses etc)
5. Eggs (not much profit there)
6. Excess produce\fruits\cheese\milk
7. What about raising fingerlings?
8. Legitimate pure-bread dog breeding (no puppy factories!!) or other animals (keeping in mind growing, if possible, the food to feed said animals)
8. .........drawing a blank

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

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I have a case of #10 cans full of Cialis.
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Hitman might be good.

Also, raiding these items for resale:

1. Honey
2. Soap
3. Sheep's wool?
4. Wood crafts (walking sticks, birdhouses etc)
5. Eggs (not much profit there)
6. Excess produce\fruits\cheese\milk
7. What about raising fingerlings?
8. Legitimate pure-bread dog breeding (no puppy factories!!) or other animals (keeping in mind growing, if possible, the food to feed said animals)
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Hitman might be good.

Also, raiding these items for resale:

1. Honey
2. Soap
3. Sheep's wool?
4. Wood crafts (walking sticks, birdhouses etc)
5. Eggs (not much profit there)
6. Excess produce\fruits\cheese\milk
7. What about raising fingerlings?
8. Legitimate pure-bread dog breeding (no puppy factories!!) or other animals (keeping in mind growing, if possible, the food to feed said animals)
WTF...Now I know why I left this site for so long, freaking jerk-offs who have nothing worth contributing to a legitimate post. Thanks a bunch. Guess I'm back to boycotting this site dude to ignorant *******s
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Your sounding stressed! Grab a cold one and maybe some good ideas will come your way with time.

There are some people packaging their extra garden seeds and selling them at nice profits.

Try to specialize in something you like doing and go from there.

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1. Honey
2. Soap
3. Sheep's wool?
4. Wood crafts (walking sticks, birdhouses etc)
5. Eggs (not much profit there)
6. Excess produce\fruits\cheese\milk
7. What about raising fingerlings?
8. Legitimate pure-bread dog breeding (no puppy factories!!) or other animals (keeping in mind growing, if possible, the food to feed said animals)
8. .........drawing a blank
1. Honey

I sell honey. If you can work out a way to keep bees, and sell honey and break even, please let me know how you do it.



2. Soap

My wife makes soap. She has sold it. I do not think she even broke even.



3. Sheep's wool?

We have sheep. We mess with wool. There is a group in this area that Co-Ops wool, ... We were looking at buying a carding/blending mill, but as best we could figure, it would have been an expensive hobby.



4. Wood crafts (walking sticks, birdhouses etc)

Good luck.



5. Eggs (not much profit there)

I do produce and market eggs. It is a loss-leader.



6. Excess produce\fruits\cheese\milk

I know two cheese-makers who focus on seasonal artisan cheese. They do okay with it. We looked into it. But in our township we can not get the licensing needed.



I know many small scale organic farmers [some who are off-grid], who do okay marketing veggies. Nearly all of them have greenhouses on 4 acres or less.

A few try it just with flat row crops.

That is a hard way to go.

A friend, a young girl [25-ish] is on her 2nd year doing it, she wants me to come over to her place and give her advice this week. Problem is that she is a party-girl and wants to run off to concerts and raves every week, instead of staying on her land pulling weeds, ...

I am only focusing on feeding my family, not on providing enough cash to live on. So it is different for me.
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you could run a mail-order business on your property if you have UPS or Fedex service. i.e. sell stuff on Ebay and then when you have enough steady business setup your own website etc.


i would look at selling produce, herbs, flowers, seedlings (whatever else - oddball crops that stores don't carry at reasonable price like shallots, brussels sprouts still on the stalk, gourmet type mushrooms, etc.) at local farmers markets. ideal setup imo would be to get a location 20-30 miles outside of a large city where your land prices would be reasonably cheap but your produce could still fetch good prices from the city dwellers. if i go to my local farmers mkt i'm really surprised by what some of them are able to charge - its pretty much the same price as the grocery store most of the time.
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You could give lessons teaching others certain things that you are good at.
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Scrapping, its free and when the market it up can be quite profitable!
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Not to get personal, But what do you LIKE to do. For example : I have a friend that lives in FL. He has always enjoyed wood working. He has 1000 sq.ft shop set up behind his house that he built. As a hobby he builds and sales custom furniture. As a way to support his hobby between custom jobs he builds and sales Rocking Chair, Book shelves, coffee &end tables at Flea markets. I think the only reason he works a real job is to keep the irs from asking were he gets his money.
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Look, here's the deal. I can see through you.

You have no intention of living "off the grid". You are trolling.

You have no land to work, or you would have mentioned it. You have no money to purchase land or you would have mentioned it.

Live off the grid?

I think you are just a Walter Mitty:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_Mitty
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From what I've seen it's very hard to meet all of your needs and make a profit at the same time. You just can't compete with the giant farms and businesses pushing this stuff out.

I make a living writing. The homesteading stuff is just a part of prepping and a way to cut down on bills. I'd suggest finding something you like and are good at, and then find a way to monetize it.
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Look, here's the deal. I can see through you.

You have no intention of living "off the grid". You are trolling.

You have no land to work, or you would have mentioned it. You have no money to purchase land or you would have mentioned it.

Live off the grid?

I think you are just a Walter Mitty:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_Mitty
Excuse me, you don't know me one bit, jack. So take off your x-ray glasses and leave this site. You don't know who I am, what I've been through, what my dreams and goals are so for you to make the decision that I'm trolling is completely asinine. You, sir, are a jerk and unless you have constructive things to post you should keep your damn mouth shut.

For all of the others, thank you very much for your input. I have been given great advice from beekeeper on my list and got some additional idea from others. Thank you.
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[QUOTE=ForestBeekeeper;4102270]1. Honey

I sell honey. If you can work out a way to keep bees, and sell honey and break even, please let me know how you do it.


I make a profit at selling honey. I don't buy bees anymore (other than the occasional queen to help genetics). I build what I can (lids, nucs). I don't use foundation (huge savings). I did crush and strain until I could afford (profit from bees) to buy an extractor. I find the best deal possible on woodenware and I always buy budget (who cares what it looks like as long as it doesn't fall apart and the bees don't laugh at you). Right now that appears to be western bee supply out of montana. I paid like 45 cents per frame, 9$ per box, on shipping my order was big enough (I combined with another person) that they sent it truck instead of ups that saved me 50$. I go get swarms, I get paid to do cut outs, and I sell nucs to get other people started along with honey. I am starting to try and sell candles this year, not going to be a ton of money here, but every little bit counts.

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Want to sell chicken eggs for about $5 each? Buy a nice game rooster and about five hens. Sell hatching eggs on eBay. For example:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/7-Warhorse-G...item41655b2ae8
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There is money to be made with selling eggs, but it's all in how you set everything up. You will not make a living off it.

Our inputs are grit, lime, wood chips, water, worms from worm bin, egg cartons, and sometimes sprouted grains.
Our chicken run is set up with 3 gated gardens and 1 grassy pasture. The garden plots gets rotated yearly and we will limit there access on muddy days. They have daily access to the grassy pasture unless were mowing it.
We feed sprouted grains during the coldest times of winter.
We use a deep bed wood chips in the chicken coop to cut down on labor. You will need to put down lime with deep litter beds. We also chip our own wood chips.
With the amount of time they run they don't use much grit.
Our chicken coop lights are on a timer and we also have a few 100 watt halogen lights punting up into the sky to help with pray birds.

With the amount of eggs we sell we had to take a class with the state (different states different standards) on processing and grading. We also have to have an egg processing room that the local health department inspects once or twice a year and had one federal inspection over the years. Were not allowed to reuse egg cartons.

With off grid you can use netting instead of lights to help with pray birds. If your chickens have access to cover they can learn to run and hide when pray birds are around but you will get some losses that way.

We sell our eggs to a local corner store. Each market is different and if your area has a good market for them stores will take less of a markup for them. We sell them to the store for $3.75 a dozen and they sell them for $4.25. We deliver eggs to them 3 days a week and I have never seen any of our eggs sitting there at our next delivery. A few times a year we are asked to buy back a dozen for broken shells or or damaged cartons, but it has never been an issue.


In some states you can process and sell the chickens with out much when it comes to permits and inspections. I forget the amount but I think it comes down to a water test and basic permits.
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Learn how to butcher meat.

its a perishable skill and will be needed in a SHTF.

anything that is a machine will eventually break, can you fix things?

Trucks, well pumps? etc. skills you can learn NOW will do you very well in a SHTF.

take vo-tec courses for ANYTHING in the medical field.

First responder, EMT, etc. You can be a nurse in just 4 years. Think of how valuable that would be.

Good luck.
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Learn how to butcher meat.
Around here just about everyone butchers their own game.

A licensed butcher is needed to be able to market livestock meat, we have very few licensed butchers, and they charge a lot. So an off-grid homesteader can earn money as a licensed butcher.



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... its a perishable skill and will be needed in a SHTF.
I am not sure what a perishable skill is. Do you mean that having the skill will perish?

After SHTF, assuming that there will no longer be health law enforcement, anyone and everyone will be doing their own butchering for market. So that will be when butchering will become the least valuable skill to have.



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... anything that is a machine will eventually break, can you fix things?

Trucks, well pumps? etc. skills you can learn NOW will do you very well in a SHTF.
SHTF but yet with plenty of gas and/or electricity?

I had not thought of any scenarios where S would HTF, but there would still be plenty of fuel and the power grid still be up.



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... take vo-tec courses for ANYTHING in the medical field.

First responder, EMT, etc. You can be a nurse in just 4 years. Think of how valuable that would be.

Good luck.
Better yet, naturopath or herbalist [assuming that there will be longer be a supply of Big Pharma drugs].

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Whoever suggested selling hatching eggs is absolutely right. There's a big market for high quality birds and you can easily sell a dozen fertilized eggs for $20-$30 + shipping. You don't even have to guarantee hatch rates, since any problems are blamed on the post office. You probably won't make a living from it, unless you start your own fantastic new breed or something, but you will make at least a few hundred dollars' profit every year.

Also, regarding your first list, breeding dogs properly won't leave you much of a profit margin, if any. Between all of the health testing, food, and vet bills most breeders are lucky to break even.

If you have land, you could set up a small orchard or you-pick farm.

If you have a sizable greenhouse, you could probably make some money selling off-season produce.

Some of the farms out here offer gimmicks like corn mazes, petting zoos etc.

Offer classes, write a book or otherwise market your skills. Trust me when I say that people are hungry for all the information they can get on self-sufficiency.

If you're handy, build things for other homesteaders and sell them online - chicken coops, brooders, and the like are all very popular.

Again, having looked into this extensively, my personal opinion is that most of the money to be made is in selling skills, not produce. I'm actually working on a series of ebooks at the moment about all of this - I quit my day job months ago and I've never been happier.
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