9mm carbine: keltec sub2000 vs highpoint 995 TS

[BUSHER]

read the title and choose 1 over the other. Then tell me why


bonus points for those with actual handling and firing experience of said firearms




trying to gather info for my cousin before he spends his $$$ - i told him all of you are well versed and experienced with info - have at it

[Sweeper80]

Hi-Point 995

Because I can buy 3 for the price of a Keltec or take the extra $600+ and buy all the WWB I can shoot.........

[BUSHER]

true - but what about the ease of using/price the glock magazines in a sub2k?

[m3ch]

Originally Posted by BUSHER

true - but what about the ease of using/price the glock magazines in a sub2k?

it is true that you can use a glock mag in a sub2k, i think its g22's?

but the hi-points are cheap and have a life time, no questions asked warranty (transferable if you decide to sell the gun) i have a 995 (older style) and i love it, its pretty accurate, plus they are getting harder to get a hold of, my dad bought mine like 3-4 years ago for 125, they are like 300 now?

[Harp]

I own a sub 2000 and my brother owns a hi point, so Ive shot both. If your just looking for something to plink with then a kel tec is fine. In my opinion and its mine the kel tec is not a battlefield rifle nor would I trust carrying it for a BOB gun. Theres just to many easy parts that can brake, the front site is JUNK. The feed ramp is made of plastic and kel tec says you shouldnt use steel case ammo in it(Tula ammo). If you ever fell straight down you can easily bend the barrel up. Now dont get me wrong its a fun gun to shoot, it looks cool and can take 30 rounders(even though I might be nervous trying to continuously shoot three of them in a row). Also Ive got the most attention at the range from it, everyone wants to shoot it. I do love it and would never sell it though.

Now my only beef with hi-point is man is it heavy, I believe you can by aftermarket 15 rounders for it now, but not sure. I know it shoots like a beast and will take every kind of ammo on the market and have no issues. Will I ever buy one, no I find them to be to heavy for my taste, would I shoot one yep just load it up.

[katarn]

If price were not an issue for me, I would go with the keltec because it is a local company for me, and I like to support the local economy when I can.

[Sweeper80]

While I like the Sub-2k A LOT, (almost bought one the other day, but it was the wrong caliber ) The 995 is a time tested design, yeah, it's HIDEOUS, it's anemic 15 round "extended capacity" mags suck and it's considered by many to be a bottom tier firearm, I've never seen one fail. My buddy has had his 9mm version since ~1996-7 (?) and he's fired thousands and thousands of rounds through it with only a few minor ammunition related malfunctions (his doesn't like TulAmmo)

I've actually got one of the 995's on my short list for the wifey, right after we get her a full-sized 9mm handgun.

[m3ch]

there is litterally NOTHING you can do to a hi-point that will make it stop firing

[BUSHER]

hmmmm i was telling my cousin to go sub2k seeing as how he already has a glock 17 and magazines would serve a dual use......but this talk of high point I will have to pass along to him - unexpected for sure

[Sweeper80]

You can buy LOTS of Winchester white box for the extra $650 you'd save by getting the 995.......



Just sayin'

[BUSHER]

not sure where u are getting pricing info but the keltec sub2000 is around $350 and the highpoint about $285 , no?



whats this $600 difference you are talking about?

[m3ch]

and its +p rated

[Sweeper80]

Originally Posted by BUSHER

not sure where u are getting pricing info but the keltec sub2000 is around $350 and the highpoint about $285 , no?



whats this $600 difference you are talking about?

Never mind, my local shop must be WAAAAY overpriced, they had a used one in .40 S&W on the rack for $550 used last week and it sold the next day, just looked 'em up, and they're only a couple hundred more than a 995 tops.

My mistake

[BUSHER]

high point is +p rated?

[BUSHER]

yeah sweeper - got a quote over the phone for the keltec at $350 new - no idea what used would go for

[Sweeper80]

Originally Posted by BUSHER

high point is +p rated?

Yes, and have been for quite some time, forever maybe?
(Not sure, but I know my buddy's been shooting =P in his for years)

[BUSHER]

ah good to learn that too - i think the only thing keepin my cousin interested in the keltec is the folding function


but ill link him to this thread so he can see the high point love

[Sweeper80]

I had been thinking about getting wifey a Sub-2k, but the additional weight of the 995 helps reduce felt recoil, and she's kinda a weakling, won't shoot my AK 'cuz it kicks too hard (I know, right? My ten year old shoots my Mosin and loves it!), and she wants to commandeer my S&W 9mm because it doesn't buck as hard as her Sig .380.

[m3ch]

its safe to fire +p+ but not all the time, but i wouldnt, its more of a "do only if you are brave"

[Ranger375]

Kel-tec

Unlessd you are a drug dealer you will get no respect owning a hi-tek