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Old 04-12-2012, 09:35 PM
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.44 magnum.....

Ruger Super Redhawk Standard (7.5") OR Smith & Wesson Model 629 (4")?

It would be hip or shoulder rig gun for camping, fishing, outdoors backup and recreational target shooting (a lot).

I would image the Ruger Alaskan with it's 2.5" barrel would not be enough barrel to consider anything beyond 10-15 yards. And, I would think the standard's 7.5" would be somewhat clumsy in carry.

I guess i am leaning towards the 629 with a 4".

What else should I be considering?
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.44 magnum.....

Ruger Super Redhawk Standard (7.5") OR Smith & Wesson Model 629 (4")?

It would be hip or shoulder rig gun for camping, fishing, outdoors backup and recreational target shooting (a lot).

I would image the Ruger Alaskan with it's 2.5" barrel would not be enough barrel to consider anything beyond 10-15 yards. And, I would think the standard's 7.5" would be somewhat clumsy in carry.

I guess i am leaning towards the 629 with a 4".

What else should I be considering?
I think the Redhawk is available in 4" now as well? I've owned a 629 Mountain Gun. It was a great pistol, albeit a bit of a handful with stout loads.

Are you a reloader, or think you may reload some day? If so, I'd go with the Ruger. They are heavy, but they are built like a tank. You can load some pretty stout stuff for a Ruger and not harm it a bit. That's one big reason why I like Ruger revolvers.

Otherwise, the Smith will probably be a bit nicer. A bit more "refined". The Smith will almost certainly have the better trigger, etc. If I didn't reload and had no intention of ever reloading, of the two I'd buy the Smith. YMMV...
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Thank you, *Paladin*.

Ruger's website didn't show a 4". Was it a Redhawk?

I don't reload. I wish I had the setup...but, I hear it's expensive to start up.

A good trigger is very important to me. I think I am leaning more for the S&W. The real problem I have is....I want one of everything!
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I have a 629 in 6-1/2" and it's a wonderful gun...........one of my faves. I also have one of the Ruger Alaskans in .454 which is highly packable. There's a significantly beefier construction in the Alaskan but it's a step up over the 629. The standard Redhawk is less beefy but I tend to think it's still more solid than the Smith and would likely stand heavier loads over time.

You might be surprised at how accurate you can be with the Alaskan even at greater distances than those mentioned...........once you get past flinching at recoil, that is. It's one of those guns that really grows on you.
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Thank you, sandline.

I see and hear that the Ruger is "beefier." But, honestly, I don't expect to be shooting ammo at max specs regularly. Maybe for protection carry but, certainly not for the majority of my shooting.

Heavy loads for protection...moderate ones for target enjoyment.

What is the real world chance of a S&W failing vs a Ruger when the majority of one's shooting is with moderate loads? I can understand the concern when firing a .454 but, with .44 magnum, is the concern the same?

I certainly don't want a gun that I have to worry about failure, especially a revolver.
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their both great guns IMO... hard to go wrong with either really...

i own the super redhawk 7 1/2" in 454 and absolutly love it. ive shoot the 629 quite a bit and enjoy it too...
but man, those super redhawks are built like a tank!

another thing to consider about the 454, is that you can shoot 45 cal in them as well... feels like your shooting a bb gun
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Thank you, sandline.

I can understand the concern when firing a .454 but, with .44 magnum, is the concern the same?
I certainly don't want a gun that I have to worry about failure, especially a revolver.
It's not so much an issue of "failure", per se. Just that the Smith may tend to be less durable under heavy stress, which as you said would not be an issue for your intended use. Being somewhat lighter and of a more trim profile, the Smith might be more comfortable on the hip. The 629 (and 29) is almost a legend in and of itself, and with good reason. A 629 with a 4" barrel would be very desirable and I'm sure would be quite functional. Wish I had one myself.
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my wife shoots my 454 and my 300 wsm... accurately too!
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Gun locks were initiated by the previous ownership group. What about a Super Blackhawk? You will rarely shoot double action. Pre '73 Blackhawk, followed by the Model 29 or 629 would be my choices. Not a fan of Ruger double actions or their pistols.

Also prefer the longer barrels. 5 1/2" or 6".
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Thank you, *Paladin*.

Ruger's website didn't show a 4". Was it a Redhawk?

I don't reload. I wish I had the setup...but, I hear it's expensive to start up.

A good trigger is very important to me. I think I am leaning more for the S&W. The real problem I have is....I want one of everything!
Here you go, I knew they made some 4" guns fairly recently. I don't know if they stopped production on the 4" model, but there are some out there. The price on this one isn't that good, so shop around...

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=281636640
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Thank you, *Paladin*.

Ruger's website didn't show a 4". Was it a Redhawk?

I don't reload. I wish I had the setup...but, I hear it's expensive to start up.

A good trigger is very important to me. I think I am leaning more for the S&W. The real problem I have is....I want one of everything!
Let me just say, if you are planning on shooting a LOT per your first post, the cost of setup for reloading will be very quickly accounted for in heavy amounts of shooting in a .44
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Oh, and Paladin as usual pretty much captured what I would have said, S&W more refined, crisp trigger, tend to be a bit better out of the box in accuracy, Ruger, like an anvil. Tough and durable can shoot whatever load.
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You can buy a "Redhawk" (44mag) in 4, 5.5 or 7.5 bbl. You can buy a "Super Redhawk" (44mag) in 2.5(Alaskan), 7.5 or 9.5 bbl.

Biased on your post and the fact that you don't reload I would look at a "Redhawk" the biggest reason being they weight less, if you're going carry it in the field.

One thing, the "SRH" has the same grip handle as the gp100 so there is a wider selection of after market grips.

Not to say that you should buy a gun based on aftermarket products.

The "RH" grip is proprietary to that gun but all major manufactures offer "RH" after market grips.

The S&W is a good choice too, with off the shelve factory ammo any of the above guns should out last you.


BTW I not sure if the 9.5" is still a cataloged item but used ones are out there if you have to have one.


If I was younger I would tell you that the 4" RH was the prefect field gun for you,but with my eyes I'm now glad I bought the 5.5" RH many,many years ago.

There is no wrong answer here, you'll be well served by any of the above mentioned guns. IMO Good Luck

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Nothing against Rugers, but If forced to choose I'll go S&W. It's those triggers, nothing beats a S&W wheel gun trigger IMO.
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S&W or Ruger 44 magnums. No matter which you pick, it's a good choice.
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I, had a model 29 with the four inch barrel, I'm still sad that I, sold it.
I, have a 29 that is a nickel 6 inch, I, call it a dirty safe queen, because I, bought it used, and it is only shot a couple of time's a year. And I, have a SRH, as has been said before it is a work horse.
The 29 is perfectly fine for normal magnum load's, the SRH will still be just fine when the Smith is rattled apart from 300 grain thermonuclear loads. I know several people who have tried to shoot lose SRH's, and all they have manged to do is turn their hand's into hamburger.
A Lee C press is about $25.00 - $30.00, and they give you a half decent reloading book.
RCBS die's $40.00, they will outlast your grand kid's.
RCBS, or Dillon scale, $50-75.00.
Powder, primer's, boolit's, or bullit's, $90.00.
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i use a shoulder holster for my 454...
cant even tell that its there!
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One of the most accurate Ruger revolver that I ever shot was a 5.5" Ruger Redhawk . That accuracy was what I was hoping for when I bought a 5.5" Ruger super Blackhawk , I'll trade my super Blackhawk for a Redhawk right now .
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Get the Redhawk. The 629 has a smoother trigger but it can't handle the powerful loads the Redhawk can. If you go to Alaska... You want Garrethammerheads 330 gr or Buffalo Bore 340 gr. The 629 can't handle these rounds.
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folks in montana prefer the super RH over the S&W anyday...

built like a tank and can handle anything you can throw at it...

a grizz will crumble under a 454 slug... if it dosent, well then you have 5 left for yourself
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