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Old 04-07-2012, 11:56 AM
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According to their website Henry Arms has come out with a new lever action in .45-70. It has an all steel reciever, XS ghost ring sight, recoil pad and a barrel just over 18". It's supposed to handle all .45-70 loads including the heavy ones. With the recent remlin problems this might be an alternative. Has anyone seen one in the stores yet?
http://www.henryrepeating.com/rifle-45-70.cfm
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Man, I hate Leverguns, but I could definitly go for one of those. I wonder if they will offer it with a Longer Barrel.
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Interesting.

It comes with sling mounts as well (if the picture is accurate).

The Henry action is very smooth. If they keep this up with the 45-70 then the slightly higher price point may be worth it. They may need to offer (or be compatible with) laminated stocks and possible do a stainless version if they truly want to compete with Remlin.

EDIT - Oh and just noticed that it is a drop style/tube loader. Not being able to top off the load without dismantling it may be a show stopper for some folks.
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I don't know. It looks like they are trying to get some of the crowd who likes the guide gun concept for a hard hitting brush gun. With the problems that arose after Remington accuired Marlin they must see this as a chance to move in. I know a lot of people are leery of buying a Marlin Guide Gun right now because of the QC problems. This would be a good alternative for people in bear country.
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Interesting.

It comes with sling mounts as well (if the picture is accurate).

The Henry action is very smooth. If they keep this up with the 45-70 then the slightly higher price point may be worth it. They may need to offer (or be compatible with) laminated stocks and possible do a stainless version if they truly want to compete with Remlin.

EDIT - Oh and just noticed that it is a drop style/tube loader. Not being able to top off the load without dismantling it may be a show stopper for some folks.
I myself prefer a regular stock and blued steel on a lever gun. There are practicle reasons for the laminated stocks and stainless but they just don't look right on a lever gun to me.
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Hubby has the Marlin Lever .45-70 I haven't shot it yet as we just recently got it But he likes it.
http://www.impactguns.com/marlin-45-...495016500.aspx
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I had a pretty bad experience with Henry and one of their 22lr models.

However, I do love my .browning BLR in .450 marlin.

For the guys looking to buy a used or new 45-70, keep your eyes open for a .450 marlin. It's the same round, just the cases are a bit different. .45-70 is not a popular round anyways, atleast outside of cowboy action shooting and in my area in general too.

Got a steal on my stainless steel marlin because it was in 450 marlin. The hornady ammo seems to be cheaper than the .45-70 stuff too.

I have seen numerous good deals on winchester, marlin, and browning 450 marlin rifles versus the same 45-70 counterparts.

They built the 450 marlin round because SAAMI was too concerned folks would blow up their old trap-door rifles when using modern pressure 45-70 loads. So they built a belted case that would not fit in a 45-70 chamber. A year or two after production, SAAMI allowed modern pressure 45-70 loads, but they had to put the warning on the box about the old guns.
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I want one. As far as it being a popular round that depends on where you live. In MS the 45-70 single shot rifles have been approved for primitive weapons season so it is a very popular here. I can get a box for around 30 to 35 dollars a box which is about the same as a good box for my 30-06.
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I am interested in this rifle.
Im already setup for 45-70 reloads with my Buffalo Classic.
Wonder how it would do with black powder, other then being dirty.
wish I new the barrel twist.
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I am interested in this rifle.
Im already setup for 45-70 reloads with my Buffalo Classic.
Wonder how it would do with black powder, other then being dirty.
wish I new the barrel twist.
Since it was originally a black powder cartridge, it's quite time tested and will do very well indeed!
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Since it was originally a black powder cartridge, it's quite time tested and will do very well indeed!
Thank you dragon,
that is very true, should make a nice compact, powerful brush gun.
Got lots of Elk and Black Bear, big cats to, should be a good rifle to carry while out in the mountains.
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Has anyone seen one yet?
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got to shoot a reproduction civil war style henry lever action .45 long colt and a repro sharps .45/70 last month.
loved the hell out of both.

maybe unrelated but there it is.
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I'd own this thing. The 45/70 is very powerful, with the tube mag, that's a lot of stopping power in your hands. No magazines to worry about, and you can hunt pretty much any medium to large game with it in North America. It's nice for sure.
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Has anyone seen one yet?
Larry, I havent as of yet, but I heard they are shipping them out this month.
Unless they delayed it again.
I am keeping a look out and will be checking the local gun shop, ( Henry authorized Dealer) on a regular basis.
I believe this would make me a nice Christmas gift.
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I myself prefer a regular stock and blued steel on a lever gun. There are practicle reasons for the laminated stocks and stainless but they just don't look right on a lever gun to me.

The Duke would be dismayed to see a lever gun in stainless and plastic.
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Make a nice butt cuff, leather sling, saddlebags, match up a nice wheel gun with it.
What do you guys think.
Like for this BC

heres a 45-70 reload kit in a canvas roll up.

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I have the .450 Bushmaster upper for my AR and have dropped several deer with it. It has nearly identical ballistics as the 45-70 and uses standard GI mags that will hold 11 Rds.

okay i'm done I'll leave now. My bad.
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I have the .450 Bushmaster upper for my AR and have dropped several deer with it. It has nearly identical ballistics as the 45-70 and uses standard GI mags that will hold 11 Rds.

okay i'm done I'll leave now. My bad.
It's a good round, but not even close to the .45-70 Ballistically.
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I would research the claims that it will handle full power loads in depth before doing it. Bc full power loads in a .45/70 is scary to shoot. I load a lot of .45/70 for handi rifles and ruger #1's and they will stomp your butt. Hot factory loafs feel like powder puffs to some of my full power hand loads. Also if handloading full power hot loads for it ONLY use new brass. NO once fired or twice fired brass.
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