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Im looking to get a Tomahawk ... just wanted your guys opinion on which ones you recommend ... im a knife nut ... but dont know too much about tomahawks ... looking for a like self-defense hand to hand number that could also complete minor bushcrafting jobs ...

Any ideas ?
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Go over to www.bladeforums.com and check out the axe and hawk subforum.
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Im looking to get a Tomahawk ... just wanted your guys opinion on which ones you recommend ... im a knife nut ... but dont know too much about tomahawks ... looking for a like self-defense hand to hand number that could also complete minor bushcrafting jobs ...

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Here are a few "Tactical" Tomahawks for you to check out:

(1) ATC Lagana Vietnam Tomahawk
http://www.knifecenter.com/item/ATVT...actical-combat
ATC takes an old proven design and manufactures it with modern materials. The Head is made from a ridiculously hard and tough steel. The Grinds and profiles are thick to prevent damage. The handle is made from modern plastics that are damn near indestructible (To test it, They prop up the handle on a block and drive a humvee over it. It just bent, and then returned to its original shape.)
Certain military units are issued this Tomahawk as a "breaching tool". Apparently it is good for going through doors, concrete, kevlar and helmets, not necessarily in that order. Probably not the best cutting instrument for bushcraft, skinning or food prep, but I have a feeling it would do the job.
You can throw it and abuse it.

Very light weight. Small Profile.
Knifecenter.com is selling them for $116 plus shipping.

(2) RMJ Tactical
http://www.rmjtactical.com/
RMJ is currently very popular among the Soldiers fighting in the "sandbox".
Their tomahawk designs are made as fighting tools. There are a number of different models, but they are all thick, full tang construction with G10 handle slabs. The idea is that there is chance for head separation, or a need for handle replacement with a integral one piece design. The spike is designed to go through helments.
Expect to pay $475 plus shipping and wait up to 4 months for delivery.

(3) Swamp Rat Crash Ax
http://www.swampratknives.com/
Swamp Rat Knives made an Ax design a while ago. If you aren't familiar with them, they make everything on a limited run basis with proprietary steel SR101 (modified 52100 steel) with a lifetime guarantee.

Swamp Rat Knives makes ridiculously tough knives, while still maintaining a useful knife profile so that bushcraft, skinning and cooking chores can be met easily. They feature full tang construction with G10 or micarta handle slabs.
These can only be purchased on the secondary market (Bladeforums, knifeforums, etc) , or if you go to a gun/knife show where Busse Knives/Swamp Rat Knives/ Scrap Yard Knives are in attendance.. They are hard to find and can be expensive.

One was recently sold for $240, "used".

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Anything without a spike on the end. If you got into a CQC fight the spike could be used against you.

I have a CS pipe hawk and love it.
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United Cutlery M48, have two around the house for throwing, haven't had one break yet, and works for BushCrafting just fine. If you don't like the spike just grind it flat.
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Any ideas ?
First there is no "best" anything.

Do you maybe want a hatchet--which will perform far better in the bush then any hawk ever will and a smaller axe will perform even better still with the likes of a GB Forester pattern or a HBC Canoe pattern (below).


Second, modern (all steel) or traditional (wood handle) hawk? How much you want to spend? $35 gets you an American Tomahawk made hawk with a Cold Steel label on it that are well made to something by Danial Winkler that starts at $3,500 for traditional hawks and $150 will get you a very good entry level modern hawk going up to around $1,000...Do you want it with or without a spike pawl? How you going to carry it, need a sheath or a carry system?

Wild Rose traditional Eastern tribes heart cutout war hawk and pipe hawk


This older, Amer. Tomahawk Co. model, is a modern copy of the Ranger Vietnam era hawk with slightly different steel and a synthetic handle instead of wood but otherwise unchanged and still not issued to the soldiers ($160)...RMJ Tactical Talon ($475)


Firestone--of sharpeners fame makes a line of excellent hatchets and this one called a Sport Axe, 18" handle and 28 oz weight--chops well, throws well and pounds well...Just a little higher priced ($10 to $15) then a Cold Steel and a far superior performer.
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Wildernessoutfittersllc.com has a nice looking tomahawk. It's called the pathfinder hawk I believe. It cost around a hundred bucks and is american made from 5160 steel. It's more on the bushcraft end than tactical, but any hawk will put a man down.
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I have the GG&G and it is sooo solid. You could hit it against solid concrete as hard as you can and it won't phase it a bit. I spent $200 for it though. If I had to do it all over again I would get the SOG for $30 or whatever it is. The SOG is a good buy for the price

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Take a look at the Smith and Wesson Tomahawk. It give you more bang for the buck. It can go through a wood door with no problems. It comes with a nice spike. This tomahawk is made from a solid piece of metal over a 1/4" thick!


Total price $76.
You will have a hard time finding a better built one for the money.

My favorite Tomahawk is made by Self Reliance Essentials. It is called the Jackal ($375). It is super sharp all the way around. It is very easy to carry and when you swing it around the weight doesn't drag you down with it. It comes with a tactical shealth.
Here is a photo of Jared the maker of the Jackal with Ryan from RMJ Tomahawks.

As you can clearly see the difference between the two Tomahawks. I personally own one of each and I prefer the Jackal.



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I think the ones used by the navy, in Libya recently are my favorites.
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This is my personal hawk forged for me by Kings Forge. They specialize in tomahawks and other past era weapons. I "antiqued" the blade, tacked the haft, and beaded the buckskin lanyard for it. Some folks like a hatchet or axe better but my hawk has never let me down yet. Here's the Link to their site...give them a look.

http://www.kingsforgeandmuzzleloading.com/page1
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My favorite is Ft Turner. Very good hawks at reasonable prices.
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Those are fine and well, but I recommend the versatile Cold Steel trail hawk. Some of those listed about have too short of handles to suit me.
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I use the Vietnam Tomahawk cold steel sells, I like it a lot, and it took a nasty edge with very fast. In spit of it's size it cuts very strong. You can throw it and it will stick in a tree or a body, and it is not expensive. I'm going to make a kydex sheath for mine.

http://www.coldsteel.com/vito.html

You can fight with this too, changing direction in mid swing is no problem, and you can move this thing lightning fast. Peter LaGana knew what he was doing when he perfected this tomahawk.


Specifications:
Weight: 19.7 oz.
Primary Edge: 2 3/4"
Hawk Length: 8 1/2"
Overall: 13 1/2"
Steel: Drop Forged 1055 Carbon
Handle: American Hickory
Sheath: Leather Sheath

$61.99
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I use the Vietnam Tomahawk cold steel sells, I like it a lot, and it took a nasty edge with very fast. In spit of it's size it cuts very strong. You can throw it and it will stick in a tree or a body, and it is not expensive. I'm going to make a kydex sheath for mine.

http://www.coldsteel.com/vito.html

You can fight with this too, changing direction in mid swing is no problem, and you can move this thing lightning fast. Peter LaGana knew what he was doing when he perfected this tomahawk.

Cold Steel Vietnam Tomahawk - YouTube

Specifications:
Weight: 19.7 oz.
Primary Edge: 2 3/4"
Hawk Length: 8 1/2"
Overall: 13 1/2"
Steel: Drop Forged 1055 Carbon
Handle: American Hickory
Sheath: Leather Sheath

$61.99
I also have the Cold Steel Vietnam Tomahawk, obtained at a sale for ridiculous 25 bucks. Hard to beat that.

If one is searching for something more tactical/modern, I would go with one from RMJ Tactical. Although they are pricy and one has to consider waiting time.
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Waldlaeufer, so what do you think about it? The only thing I don't like is the sheath, but that is OK, just gives me an excuse to make a custom Kydex one.
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Guys, can someone explain to me what the point of a tomahawk is, other than employment as a battle weapon? Clearly I'm missing something here, because while I get great use out of my hatchet and forest axe, for instance, I just don't see a practical use for one of these things.....

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Guys, can someone explain to me what the point of tomahawk is, other than employment as a battle weapon? Clearly I'm missing something here, because while I get great use out of my hatchet and forest axe, for instance, I just don't see a practical use for one of these things.....
+1. I was wondering the same thing.
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Guys, can someone explain to me what the point of a tomahawk is, other than employment as a battle weapon? Clearly I'm missing something here, because while I get great use out of my hatchet and forest axe, for instance, I just don't see a practical use for one of these things.....
Well it is an Axe, think of it as a Battle Hatchet if you will. I can do the same thing with mine as you can your hatchet, yet it is light enough to carry all day without being heavy, and at the end of the day it is a fast weapon that will disassemble an opponent. If you watch the video Cold Steel made it should give you a few ideas. I can throw it for a silent take down, and with the pick end, I could do things like MINE, open up steel drums, etc.

You would Be surprised how efficiently this thing chops too for it's light weight size. Lets say I just killed a 12 point buck and I need to butcher it, no problem lickety split that buck is getting dissected.

I'll tell you what, I am ordering my materials to manufacture my own Kydex sheaths Wednesday. When I get everything and make my sheath for it. I will make a video and show you what it can do.

I sharpened mine, but not too sharp, since too sharp would make the edge chip, but it cuts very good.
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People keep mentioning the lightness of the traditional style hawks maybe a half to three quarter of a pound less in weight but therein lies its downfall as like a rifle bullet you need velocity and mass to equal deep penetration.

That extra weight, unless you're an ultralight backpacker, saves time and energy--you only have to take one swack with the hatchet compared to three, four for the hawk to accomplish the same thing...You have a much larger cutting surface with the hatchet as many hawks are made to be permitted at NMLRA events and a 2¾" face is all that's allowed where we have 4" and 4¼" faces on our hatchets.

Hawks are great for playing Mountain Men and Indians, light camp chores, game preparation but a hatchet and even better still a small axe will do all the same things more efficiently and that's what you want to strive for...They're good on an established trap line where the sets have already been constructed and as I said at rendezvous for throwing events...General camping, chores a hatchet but I prefer a Cruiser of Forester axe -- 24" - 25" haft with a little belly, 1¾# - 2# head with a full flattened poll no belly to the blade and a little swell in the cheeks to aid in splitting...With one of those and a couple of hard plastic or forged aluminium wedges you can build a log cabin and s split rail fence around the garden.
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