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Old 03-11-2012, 08:23 PM
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I have an '04 Ram. About a month ago I went to get gas and seconds after I started pumping it clicked off like it does when you've filled up. I thought it was the station, then realized gas was not flowing into the tank, it would back up and slowly drain into the tank.

I thought the vent was block, so I disconnected up near the gas cap and blew air through it with the compressor, then reconnected it. Didn't work.

Any ideas? It's quite frustrating and a bad situation if SHTF and I don't have any gas. It takes about 10 minutes to get about 4-5 gallons into it.
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I asked my dad who been working on cars since he was 14 he is now 65. He saysthat you have either debris or a kink in the filler tube. Then again you should check with other 04 ram owners and see if there has been any problems with the baffle collapsing in the tank ( The plastic liner ). Have you ever had the cap off for a period of time?
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Some tanks have a screen where the filler hose meets the tank to keep large debris out of the tank and/or siphon hoses. Is it possible someone stuffed grass, paper or a plasic bag down there?
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The only thing I can tell you (which isn't any help at all) is that a friend of mine started having the same issue with his car about 1 year ago. He took it to 2 or 3 different repair shops 2 of which applied their version of a fix and the last one had no idea what might be causing it.

His car was 10 years old and he had been considering trading it in for a new one anyway (which he did) so it was no big deal for him.
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The filler tube should be a straight shot to the tank ---

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You should be able to disconect the filler tube at the tank. Then block the tank opening with a rag. Use a flash light into one end while looking into the other.

"DO NOT USE A LIT MATCH" !!!

And use a long "Wood" dowl pushing it up from the tank to the fender. This way your not pushing that banana or rag into the tank ?

"DO NOT USE A LIT MATCH" !!!

"DO NOT USE A LIT MATCH" !!!

"DO NOT USE A LIT MATCH" !!!
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"DO NOT USE A LIT MATCH" !!!

"DO NOT USE A LIT MATCH" !!!

"DO NOT USE A LIT MATCH" !!!
Normally you'd think this was a common sense but in a precationary video that I saw for my job training a few years ago someone did exactly that. In this case it was a Jet fuel bowser. The guy was trying to try and see if it was full. The ignited vapors blew him right off the truck and its a wonder but he did survive.

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I have seen this happen on a rare occasion, the filler hose develops a seperation in it's lamination and a bubble appears on the inside. It can happen from certian fuels and poor quality of rubber materials .
I have a scope that is used for looking 3-4 feet in to small areas, I use it on hydrolic hoses and walls and many other places you can't see a strait shot .
I bought mine from Snap on , but Harbor freight sells them as well and home depot too.A very handy tool . Carpenters and electricians use them to look inside walls .
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I had a 08 Ram and that happened to me a few times. What I found out was that the station I was at had extremely high pump pressure and the filler hose would not take the volume being pumped through it. I would simply slow the rate down and that solved the problem. Does it do it at all stations you fill up at?
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Had an 06 Mustang that did this. Didnt find one thing wrong. Even had the dealer look. Bad design they said. Every time I filled up I had to just trickle it in. Took forever.
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Doesn't matter where I fill up. Even when trickling it in, it barely flows into the tank. With all the wise a55 little punks that wander in and out of our neighborhood, I wouldn't be surprised if something was stuffed into the tank.

No, I haven't left the cap off for any period of time.
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Normally you'd think this was a common sense but in a precationary video that I saw for my job training a few years ago someone did exactly that. In this case it was a Jet fuel bowser. The guy was trying to try and see if it was full. The ignited vapors blew him right off the truck and its a wonder but he did survive.

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Yep --- I knew a guy in Jr. High who checked his fathers 2 gal. outboard tank that way - half the side of his face looked like street pizza 10 years later Bright kid from what I remember ( no pun intended )

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My '98 Jeep Cherokee does this every once in a while, but generally only if the tank is nearly empty and there has been a large fluctuation in temperatures. It's not a problem if I fill up with a 1/4 tank or more.


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I went to get gas today and the problem is gone...
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"DO NOT USE A LIT MATCH" !!!

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Everybody knows a match burns out way to fast, zippos flame lasts much longer

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My 06 F250 does this. In my case it is a known problem with the evaporative emission system filter canister ($500 part) ( vent filter ). I does really get annoying. Some stations create more of an issue than others. I just took the thing off. and made a inline filter that I could change.
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There is an anti-siphon device at the end of the tube that doubles as an anti roll over valve too and this might be what is getting stuck in the upper posistion and causing a blockage, it's just a plastic ball in a metal cage, look at that and see if it is getting stuck.
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Assuming you have checked all the obvious things such as something blocking the filler i.e. vandalism- Take it to a dealer and ask them to check the evaporative canister on the fuel system. On rare occasions I have heard of that causing your issue. Used to work at the local Dodge place behind the service desk. Good luck.
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turn the fuel nozzle sideways...i have to do that on all my classic mustangs ive owned
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I used to work at Dodge...I had a customer come in with the same complaint...know what it was? A spiders nest in the evap line...it took HOURS to find that one...
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My '98 Jeep Cherokee does this every once in a while, but generally only if the tank is nearly empty and there has been a large fluctuation in temperatures. It's not a problem if I fill up with a 1/4 tank or more.


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My 97 Cherokee does the same thing, usually I "burp" the tank (open and close the tank flap several times usually eliminates the problem.
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