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Old 03-04-2012, 08:52 AM
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Can anyone tell me what's the difference between military grade buck shot and buck shot made for civilian use. I bought a box and as I look it over I can't see any difference. If anyone has shot any tell me how it shoots.

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Can anyone tell me what's the difference between military grade buck shot and buck shot made for civilian use. I bought a box and as I look it over I can't see any difference. If anyone has shot any tell me how it shoots.

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Military buck spreads wider than most civilian buck loads.
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There is no such thing as "military" grade buckshot, IME. At least, all of our buckshot I have seen in 20 years has been Winchester 12ga "00". Sometimes the plastic is green, but most of the time it's red. Identical to any other 2-3/4" Winchester buckshot load I ever saw. And they definately perform the same.
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The only difference is the shell is OD green. Still the same ole crappy #4 buck that you can buy at wallyworld.
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Exactly.

Just different color and box.

And because it is "military grade" it can be sold more expensive, then the exact same crap, made for "civilians".

If one wants something more advanced, go Federal LE/Tactical with the advanced wads.

The Hornady LE stuff patterns also nicely.
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Unfortunately, I found this review after I had purchased two boxes a while ago and became "suspicious" after shooting it. Live and learn, as always...

http://www.shotgunworld.com/bbs/view...224340&start=0

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Enlightening.
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marketing thats what , get people to pay more for the same things
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Its like the Hornady zombie thing. They add the word Zombie to their Critical defense line and they have the z-max ammo
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Made by the lowest bidder I guess.
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LOL funny I always get the military 00 buck cheaper than the stuff at wally world.. I don't pay more for it I typically pay about $1-2 LESS per box of 5.
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The mil. buckshot is buffered with pig fat and issued to troops deployed
in Moozelim countries.

(Okay, okay... I can dream, can't I?)
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Just lube your barrelbores with pig fat instead.
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Made by the lowest bidder I guess.
That's the way things work.

I bet Schmidt & Bender also did not calculate with the regular street prices they charge civilian customers when they did win the contract.

In other cases I personally know that not the best product is bought for service use, in fact the cheapest product is bought.
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Just lube your barrelbores with pig fat instead.
Oh, no... I want the boxes *labeled* "Pig Fat Loads", so they can be
left where they'll be "accidentally" captured by Abdul!!

(I think that actually *did* start the Sepoy Rebellion in India back in
the 1800's, IIRC)
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In other cases I personally know that not the best product is bought for service use, in fact the cheapest product is bought.
Abjectly wrong.

Any piece of issued equipment has to meet the criteria/requirements that're set down *before* the bidding begins, and only *if* it meets the asked for requirements does it go to bidding. You aren't seeing the lowest priced, cheapest equipment being given to the troops, you're seeing equipment that meets the highest requirements that are then left to be bid on.

God bless.

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Basically Winchester puts green plastic in the mold when they make the shells put them in a plain cardboard box and charge more because the military will pay it without question, yep sounds about right.

Military contract is just a license to overcharge. Somebody recently wanted to trade me a scope for a rifle I had listed. $1500 for the HAMR, Leupold seems to have gotten a pretty big ego about their products anymore. A 4x23 compact scope, no variable to it, no side focus or adjustable objective, no BDC target knobs. And you still have to put a battery in it for illumination. Or an ACOG for $400 less and no batteries.
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Unfortunately, I found this review after I had purchased two boxes a while ago and became "suspicious" after shooting it. Live and learn, as always...

http://www.shotgunworld.com/bbs/view...224340&start=0

Take care.
That was eye opening. Major thanks.
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Best I can figure from the extremely limited amount of research I have performed is, there's nothing to get worked up over, it's buckshot. It works like buckshot is supposed to work. Get a few boxes and pattern it to your shotgun and find out how it performs in your shotgun.
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