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Old 02-24-2012, 10:31 AM
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I know there has been alot of discussion here about how to store food, and I have read alot of the threads on this, but I have a couple questions that I want to make sure I understand why people use what they use.

Currently, I have a FoodSaver vacuum sealer. I have been vacuum sealing things like rice, beans, flour, instant potatoes, and oats in them. And then placing those sealed bags in 5 gallon buckets, and some other non-air tight plastic containers.

I felt comfortable with this, as I knew that vacuum sealing would prolong the shelf life, and that keeping them in the containers kept them out of light exposure.
But,,, I keep hearing so much about mylar bags and oxygen absorbers.
The absorbers make sense, I would think that over time they will eliminate even more oxygen then a vacuum sealer does.
But, what about the bags themselves? Why is mylar better?

I like how the FoodSaver rolls work, I can make bags any size I need. And I think it works out to be a good bit cheaper also.
Would it be better or acceptable to still use the FoodSaver but throw in an oxygen absorber also?

Lets say that mylar and absorbers is THE best way to go,,, am I wasting money and time doing this with the vacuum sealer?

Also,,,, what is wrong with just dumping the foods directly into the buckets themselves with no bag, and putting absorbers in? Since the 5 gallon buckets seem to seal well.
Or, are they not air tight enough?

Thanks for the help guys, I know alot of this has been covered, but I just wanted to express my main concerns and get the real info on why I should do this one way or another.
~John
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Found this thread, seems to hit on the main differences.
http://www.survivalistboards.com/sho...d.php?t=205755

I was not aware that the FoodSaver bags would break down over time and let in oxygen.
Just how long are we talking though? I would be happy with 3 to 5 years storage.
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Mylar bags are O2 barriers. Food Saver bags are not and will allow air to infiltrate back into the bags over time.

Vacuum sealing is mostly designed to prevent freezer burn in wet foods rather than to keep O2 out. The plastic that the bags are made from simply can't keep O2 from permeating back in. I've had them lost their seals in 2-3 years many times too, so that's another issue.

And O2 absorbers remove far more O2 than vacuum sealing does. And they do it quickly, not over time. The lower the O2 level, the less chance of insect infestation, and the longer the foods last.

The combination of the two is the best technology for food storage that we currently have available. This is why the long term food storage companies are using it.

As for using the buckets directly. They also have the same problem. Plastic it not a true gas barrier. And O2 simply seeps back into the bucket. Food storage is too critical to try to cut corners. Especially since it really doesn't cost all that much to do it right the first time. It's sort of like stepping over a dime to pick up a penny.

As I constantly stress, packing food like the food storage companies that have been in business for decades (not the fly by nighters) is doing it, is just the smart way to go. They have the experience and lab testing to prove that their methods work. I've seen too many improvised solutions that "seem like they should work" but don't.
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I know there has been alot of discussion here about how to store food, and I have read alot of the threads on this, but I have a couple questions that I want to make sure I understand why people use what they use.

Currently, I have a FoodSaver vacuum sealer. I have been vacuum sealing things like rice, beans, flour, instant potatoes, and oats in them. And then placing those sealed bags in 5 gallon buckets, and some other non-air tight plastic containers.

I felt comfortable with this, as I knew that vacuum sealing would prolong the shelf life, and that keeping them in the containers kept them out of light exposure.
But,,, I keep hearing so much about mylar bags and oxygen absorbers.
The absorbers make sense, I would think that over time they will eliminate even more oxygen then a vacuum sealer does.
But, what about the bags themselves? Why is mylar better?

I like how the FoodSaver rolls work, I can make bags any size I need. And I think it works out to be a good bit cheaper also.
Would it be better or acceptable to still use the FoodSaver but throw in an oxygen absorber also?

Lets say that mylar and absorbers is THE best way to go,,, am I wasting money and time doing this with the vacuum sealer?

Also,,,, what is wrong with just dumping the foods directly into the buckets themselves with no bag, and putting absorbers in? Since the 5 gallon buckets seem to seal well.
Or, are they not air tight enough?

Thanks for the help guys, I know alot of this has been covered, but I just wanted to express my main concerns and get the real info on why I should do this one way or another.
~John
I vacuum seal mylars inside my foodsaver bags. Makes for a great, strong seal and system. Just cut off about an inch of your gal mylars, insert them into the gal foodsavers and double seal. Then put in your favorite cheap buckets. Use o2 absorbers of course.
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I Vacuumed a gallon of water 3 years ago in a FoodSaver Bag I sealed on both ends, stored it where both ends have pressure against it.... no leaks.
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