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Old 02-22-2012, 08:36 AM
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This is something that I have been thinking about over the last couple months. How much ammo should you really have on hand? How much will you need? Is there just certain amounts that are highly unrealistic to obtain/ afford?

It seems as though I have been steered in the direction that the "need" of 30,000+ rounds are optimal and if you can have more than that it is even better.

It seems as I have been told that I should have:
30,000 + rounds for my 7.62x39
30,000 + rounds for my .22
10,000 + rounds for my .45 acp
10,000 + rounds for my .357
2,000+ rounds of buckshot, ,2,000+ rounds of birdshot, and 1,000+ rounds of slugs.
Plus reloading equipment to reload your pistols and another couple rifles of choice. So you will be able to reload when you run out.

I definitely think that having this amount of ammo would be a good thing. But the question is, are these amounts really obtainable financially in a short amount of time?

I have been stockpiling for some years now but when I do the math..... purchasing 30,000+ rounds for the 7.62x39 would cost over $6,000 alone. and thats not mentioning the cost of all the other ammo.

I try my best at stockpiling as much ammo as I can, but it seems my wallet is too thin achieve these kind of numbers in a relatively short period of time.

What are your fella's thoughts on this matter? Is this too much ammo to even think about buying? Do most of you guys buy little bits at a time (1000 round cases)? How do you guys manage a budget on your ammo and reloading supplies? And where on the list of priorities is ammo and reloading for you compared to other preps such as food,water,first aid ect?
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Sounds about right to me ....just kidding!
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"....you can have more guns that you can carry, but never more ammo that you can shoot" --- George Dean
....course my grand-pappy used to say, "......never, say never!"

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What are your fella's thoughts on this matter? Is this too much ammo to even think about buying? [ Yes, No, Maybe ] Do most of you guys buy little bits at a time (1000 round cases)? [ Yes ] How do you guys manage a budget on your ammo and reloading supplies? [ Poorly ] And where on the list of priorities is ammo and reloading for you compared to other preps such as food,water,first aid ect? [ dead last ]
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Wow, 30,000 rounds sounds like a lot. I would love to have that much, but like you, I have a hard time with the financial aspect, as well as the storage for that quantity. Also, I would make sure all other preps were done (if that is even possible, I am always finding somewhere that my preps are lacking) before I bought over 10,000 rounds of any caliber.

Another thing to think about is moving all of it, if the need arose.

I buy a little at a time, much less than 1000 rounds at a time. A couple of boxes here and there, when I go to Wallymart or a gun store. When I can, I buy in bulk, like right now I can get an ammo can (420 rounds of of 5.56 military surplus) for about $170.00 locally, but it is cheaper online.

One thing to consider buying is more bird shot, I don't know about you, but I am unable to get one bird per shot, it is usually more like 1 bird every 5 or 6 shots on a good day.
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There is no actual way of knowing how much you will need. There is not even a verifieable way to know what is going to happen, if anything happens at all. Everything is guesswork and assumption. What I say, is to have a years supply of your normal range consumption, and increase your range time.

30,000 rounds in a closet means nothing if you have no skill. So every time you go to wallyworld, buy two (100 count) boxes and use up one the next day. Repeat weekly.
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The key point to stockpiling some ammo is the stuff goes up in price... alot. (heck I should form a mutual fund based on it, i'd get better returns)
It's useful to the owner, in it's intended capacity, also it holds and rises in value in it's resale value.

stocking 10k AK or 5.56 ammo is perfectly sane, and wise.

If you ever needed it, for real... yeah, no amount is enough. It would be priceless.
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This is the only topic my wife and I don't see eye to eye on. She wants it stored, but I shoot it up too quick. LOL Seriously though who knows how much someone needs. I honestly have no idea how much i have except for my 9mm. I shoot weekly though so i constantly buy and use it. Check out some companies that have the calibers you need on sale from time to time and shop around. I live close enough to cheaper then dirt so i buy some locally. I get some from sportsman guide. I purchase most my 22. from either academy or walmart. Just shop around and buy as you can. One word of advice spread your investment out. Don't go buy 5,000 rounds of .223 and have one bucket of rice and a case of water.

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One thing to consider buying is more bird shot, I don't know about you, but I am unable to get one bird per shot, it is usually more like 1 bird every 5 or 6 shots on a good day.[/QUOTE]

Heck this last Dove season we were lucky to even see a bird yet alone get a shot off at one. Lots or tailgate time and Coors light was my dove season.

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Any ammo is better than none. But if you buying large amounts, train with it.
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How about getting into reloading? Not only can you make ammo cheaper than you can buy it, it's also better ammo, customized specifically for the gun that will be shooting it. It also lets you reload your cases over and over, giving you the same effect as storing more ammo. Again, for less cost, and less storage room.
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"Plus reloading equipment to reload your pistols and another couple rifles of choice. So you will be able to reload when you run out."

My philosophy is to have some that is for "Emergency Use Only" and some that is "Shooter" ammo. When the "Shooter" ammo bucket empty, I reload it. But the other is never touched. That way I always have some ready to go.
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I think that most folks are stockpiling ammo that they hope never to use, so when you talk about tens of thousands of rounds, think about what kind of worst-case scenario would call for needing that kind of ammo. Consider how much routine maintenance it would take to keep your gun(s) in working order if you're going through that much ammo. Sure, it's possible that availability could become a problem in today's political landscape, and if TSHTF, there would presumably be some barter value, but balance your ammo preps with everything else.

"They" really might be able to pry your gun from your cold, dead hands if you starve to death! Spend what you can afford, or the starving might happen sooner rather than later.
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How much is enough? Who knows. But its been said that you cant get too much of a good thing.

And you`d better get it while you still can.
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And here I thought I was doing good with 100 rounds of 20 ga and 500 rounds of .22 LR.
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And here I thought I was doing good with 100 rounds of 20 ga and 500 rounds of .22 LR.
Okay, c'mon now, 1 value pack of 7 1/2 shot from Wally World and a brick of .22 is only a day at the range!
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I just can't get my head around needing 30,000 rounds of ammo. If you really needed to defend yourself or your family...and you go through 30,000 rounds successfully...your probably shooting at ghosts. But to each his/her own.

I reload for all centerfire calibers I own however. I for the life of me don't understand why more folks on this forum don't reload.
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i think a 1000 rds for rifles 500 pistols a good number .20 and 12ga 500 of varrious target, d00 buck. slugs
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Someone suggested your years supply of range ammo plus a bit - good advice right there. I would say your years ammo x 2 stashed away for each weapon that isnt touched, PLUS your regular yearly range ammo that you would use and replenish/reload without touching the backup stuff. For me that would be +- 2000-3000 rounds per firearm, very doable.

I think 30000 rounds of anything is really financially unrelistic. by all means if you can get lots and are financially able to buy for a rainy day then do it. But 30 000 7.62 x 39 rounds for me (at R4000.00 per 750rnds = R 160 000.00 per 30 000!!) which with the current currency conversion rate for you guys equates to USD $ 20 500.00. that all equates to --> AINT GOING TO HAPPEN.

Plus, you wont find 30 000 rounds of 7.62x39 in the whole of Soth Africa at the moment anyway. (legitimate, legally purchased ammo I mean.)
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30k for most is not realistic. Like said that's 6 grand, yea my wife would like that. I know how big a stack of ammo cans that would, storage for most people would be an issue. My wife likes to actually park a car in the garage

And as said concentrating on ammo at the expensive of other things would not be wise. A pile of ammo and no chow would not work well. Plus there is the issue if you ever decided to move somewhere, some places you wouldn't be able to legally store that much ammo. And if you had a fire, the guys in the red truck would not like you very much.

I buy as I can without screwing up our finances. I buy a brick of 22lr at the first of the month. I go to wally world and they have the cheap stuff in stock I get a box. I do reload but thats just another thing to put cash towards vs ready to fire ammo. Plus there is the scope you want, or a couple mags, whatever.

And prepping is more than just bullets: a hand pump for our well would have bought alot of ammo at 1700$, but you need water. Theres tools to buy, seeds, canned goods whatever.
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I just shot up some shotgun ammo from the late 60s. (It smelled funny but worked fine.)
It was on sale for $2 for 25 rounds. The same stuff is about $16 now. I used to get .22lr Mini-Mags for under 1 penny a round. Now it is about 6 to 8 cents a round.
If the trucks stop running, what do you think it will be worth then?
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I just can't get my head around needing 30,000 rounds of ammo. If you really needed to defend yourself or your family...and you go through 30,000 rounds successfully...your probably shooting at ghosts. But to each his/her own.

I reload for all centerfire calibers I own however. I for the life of me don't understand why more folks on this forum don't reload.
You never know that might be for the zombies or if the Chinaman decides to invade!

I read somewhere there's only just enough ammo for stopping a human wave attack somewhere...
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