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Old 02-16-2012, 11:31 PM
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thinking of replacing the old barrel and stock of my 10/22 with combo package from J&G sales... should I go with 16 or 20 inch barrel???

20 will be a bit more accurate, but heavier... i also seem to remember hearing that you arent gaining any muzzle velocity by having a barrel longer than 19 inches for a 22lr

16 will be lighter, but how will accuracy be affected for 50 yard shots???

i am leaning toward 16" given the weight issue, but wanted some other thoughts
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I fail to understand why you need a bull barrel for a 22.
I can understand a bull barrel for a larger caliber, I just think it's overkill for a 22.
Anyway, I would get a 16 in barrel.
Old 02-16-2012, 11:42 PM
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Go with the longer barrel.
Old 02-16-2012, 11:47 PM
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Are you staying with the factory stock or going aftermarket? A 22lr usually uses all of it powder by 16" everything after that has minimal accuracy increases. The 20" bull barrels are heavy. I just put one on my 10/22 with a Hogue stock and it is heavy. If you want to upgrade the barrel for increased accuracy but want to keep the factory stock you could go with a aftermarket sporter or Green Mountain makes a 17 and 19" heavy taper barrel that are very nice. Otherwise if you really want a bull barrel I would look at intended use. If your going to carry it for hunting I would go 16" for sure. If it was me I would either stay with the factory stock or buy a replacement stock for a factory barrel then get a GM 17" heavy taper. Sand the barrel channel out a bit to fit the barrel and you should be good.

Also check out RimfireCentral.com They have tons of info on 22's and talk about accuracy with the different barrel types.
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Some good info by Wicked. If you don't currently have a bull barrel, to change to one you will need to either replace the stock or sand out the barrel channel. You're not giving up anything in accuracy with the 16" barrel and as was said all/most of the powder has been burned and you're at max velocity. Everything after that is just drag. Go with the 16". In my opinion you're intended usage will dictate what barrel weight choice will work best for you. A super heavy barrel will be great for a benchrest gun and that might be the only case where I would recommend going with the 18" or 20". For every thing else, a mid weight barrel, a steel sleeved aluminum of carbon fiber one , or even a factory profile barrel will be much easier to maneuver or carry around.

I can personally recommend two. I have a TacSol sleeved barrel in a Hogue stock that is extremely light and a fantastic shooter. However, while they cost a little more, if you want the best the only way to go is Kidd. They have several weights: a full heavy bull, fluted, mid-weight taper, etc. While you're at it just treat yourself and get one of their triggers to go with it
http://www.coolguyguns.com/Barrels_c_8.html
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I saw a 26" the other day advertised. Its supposed to be whisper quiet. They claim with subsonic ammo it sounds like an air rifle.
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I saw a 26" the other day advertised. Its supposed to be whisper quiet. They claim with subsonic ammo it sounds like an air rifle.
I have a CZ452 Ultra Lux with 28" barrel. With subsonic loads it doesn't even sound like a gun going off. More like someone closing a car door.

I have a 16" bull barrel on my 10/22 and unless the op is shooting competitively, it's plenty accurate.
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thanks for the responses everyone...

To answer your question: i have a stock 10/22... i was looking at J&G sale flier which had a houge stock / bull barrel combo for ~$140. i put a houge stock on my mini14 and love the texture/feel... and i although my 10/22 puts down nice groups at 25 yards, i wanted to get some better patters at 50 yards.

i am aware that i would need a different profiled stock to accept a bull barrel, but that is why i was looking at the combo pack... i suppose i can convert back and forth given the scenario, but i would require rezero.
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mine puts out nice groups in the stock configuration out to 75 yds. I have not seen the need to go to a bull barrel. The only reason I was considering a longer a barrel was how quiet they are.IMHO I dont think you will need need a bull barrel to get it any more accurate. But I do agree on those rubberized stocks they are nice.
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16 on a semi-auto. bolt, 18-20. if you can, get a suppressor.
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Here's a good reference for you: http://ballisticsbytheinch.com/22.html
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Maximum velocity before 16" of bullet travel so the extra 4 " don't mean a hill of beans except for a longer sight radius if you use iron sights. 50 yards you won't notice the difference. you might at 200 yards but not many of us shoot 22 LR that far.

14" = 1,105 fps.
13" = 1,106
12" = 1,110
11" = 1,089
10" = 1,114
..9" = 1,077
..8" = 1,063
..7" = 1,057
..6" = 1,024
..5" = ..959
..4" = ..927 fps.

These numbers are averages done in 1986 by Guns and Ammo not any set number for a particular brand. I like DudeZXT's chart better but I have had this in my files for a long time so I thought I would haul it out for a comparison.
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i would get a stock lenght bull barrel if i were you. .22 ammo doesnt have enough power to make it out of a 20"bbl with enough steam to do any damage
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Technically, if the barrel is too long, the exit velocity is slower due to wall fricton.
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What I like most about the chart I provided is that it also links to muzzle force - which is the really important measurement that indicates the penetration & damage the round should do...
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I saw a 26" the other day advertised. Its supposed to be whisper quiet. They claim with subsonic ammo it sounds like an air rifle.
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I have a CZ452 Ultra Lux with 28" barrel. With subsonic loads it doesn't even sound like a gun going off. More like someone closing a car door.

I have a 16" bull barrel on my 10/22 and unless the op is shooting competitively, it's plenty accurate.
i have one and it is with sub sonics its like shooting a suppressed rifle almost its a dream to shoot and wicked accurate
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I don't know where you're getting this 16" for rimfire burnout since it's been (for the last half century at least) at 18.5" where barrel velocity really doesn't help anymore and most companies put a 20" barrel on to capture the remaining gasses just a little longer--unfortunately that's not completely true...It's because it works out better for the barrel maker to cut that bar of steel at that length to get the most pieces with the least amount of wastage.

Just check the data that DudeZXT provided to corroborate.
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