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Old 12-24-2011, 01:14 AM
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i have a question.i never knew there was a button on pump shot guns you have to push to cycle shells.that takes time in a home invasion type synario.is there anyway around this?
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You only have to push that button (called the shell release button/lever depending on model and brand of shotgun) once to chamber the initial round, however if you already have a round chambered and you fire it then all you have to do is cycle the pumping mechanism.

I teach all my junior Marines how to use the inertia of recoil to help you pump the shotgun and I can fire the M500 pump shot gun almost as fast as the Benelli 1014 or M4 as the civillians know it. The Semi auto in almost all situations will be faster though.
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I am still partial to the classic Win Model 97 riot or trench that has no disconnector. Hold the trigger and pump. That's how I do it.
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in a word.. practice.

Im not sure about all models, but i know the action lock lever on the mossberg needs to be pressed only to eject an unfired shell.

Even in the event you have a misfire, the trigger will have already been pulled allowing you to just cycle the next round in without pressing the action lock lever.

I cant think of many circumstances where you would want to cycle shells without firing them. Unless your dutch loading and want to get to a certain type of shot.
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i have a question.i never knew there was a button on pump shot guns you have to push to cycle shells.that takes time in a home invasion type synario.is there anyway around this?
You should go to a firearms training class. NRA, local shooting clubs, Hunter Education course, are good places to start.
Nothing you read in here will help you with what you need.
Hands on INSTRUCTION by a competent community member or professional.
Please, most if not all of these helpful classes are available for free, or at a very low cost.
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Empty the gun, make sure it's empty, make sure it's still empty, and then dry fire it and cycle it a hundred thousand times. The slide release only has to be pressed if you don't pull the trigger.

Welcome to the shotgun forum, East!

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I am still partial to the classic Win Model 97 riot or trench that has no disconnector. Hold the trigger and pump. That's how I do it.
Same with the Stevens 520. You should only need to push the button if the hammer is cocked, most popular brands any how. once the hammer drops the pump will unlock, cycle, and repeated as necessary.

I wouldn't do this in a home invasion however. One shot center mass after the target is identified positively, and repeating for any of his associates. You don't want a wall of lead flying around in your house with your Family inside.
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+1 for training and practice.
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+1 for training and practice.

This is really the answer in my opinion, too.


Take a course from a good instructor. I regularly take courses, but waited a long time to take a few with shotguns. I like shotguns but I won't grab one over some of my other tools. I really am glad I took a few courses though, I learned some stuff.

It's good to get to see and learn malfunctions with the shotgun, for some reason folks don't practice malfunctions with shotguns as much as with other firearms. They will malfunction, pump or semi-auto, and they can be difficult to clear - especially without knowing how.
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on my old Ward i only have to just keep the trigger pulled and pump .. She'll rattle them off one after another almost like semi auto.


But i agree with the others you should receive some training first, If you havent used the weapon before. At least go to the range and practice in a safe setting. Remember you have alot of fire power in your hands.
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It took me a few months, but I finally found a descent old school 12ga shotgun with no disconnecter.

I had it cut down to 18 1/2" with a gold bead put on,,,it only takes 2 3/4 shells, but its FAST!
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thanks guys.
its a mossberg with a pistol grip and a grip on the pump part.i will take it out to day and see if it cycles after firing with out pushing the button.



THANKS AGAIN!!
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There is some very good advice on this thread regarding training and practice. Learn with a basic model, stock shotgun if you can. It's been my experience that new shooters will short-shuck a pump gun if it's got a pistol grip and a grip on the pump. For some reason they tend to twist the two grips vs racking them in a straight line.

Either way, as mentioned....training and practice, in that order. Don't teach yourself bad habits for somoene else to have to break.
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I am all for training and everyone who mentioned training and practise is right..However

just how many rounds from a shotgun do you think you will need to fire off?

Remember Only hits count
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Find an old Winchester 1300... doesn't get much faster than that.
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I'll get around to it and make a Video of my Maverick shooting fast, heck, maybe I'll do it today.
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do it jungleboy do it
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Here's some Magpul Video Trailer to show a couple of cool Shotgun Techniques.

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Here ya' go!


Note, this was before I had my Coffee, and I have'nt shot in a Week, so this is me at my slowest.
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in a word.. practice.

Im not sure about all models, but i know the action lock lever on the mossberg needs to be pressed only to eject an unfired shell.

Even in the event you have a misfire, the trigger will have already been pulled allowing you to just cycle the next round in without pressing the action lock lever.

I cant think of many circumstances where you would want to cycle shells without firing them. Unless your dutch loading and want to get to a certain type of shot.
Bingo. If you practice with the gun once you won't even ask this question.

Also, though the Model 97 is great fun for fast slam firing... You can. Achieve the same speed without it with practice. The first time I saw a woman doing this with a Remington 870... I thought she had brought some illegally altered full auto machine gun shote to the range. What was more impressive was that she stayed dead on target every shot.

Practice practice practice
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