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Old 12-10-2011, 04:53 PM
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Default Mosin nagant 7.62x54r heavy target barrels



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Oh the possibilities are endless. (sorry for the caps, it was cut-n-pasted)

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Now on to debating the finer points of this conversion. Have at it boys.


$79.95

THESE ARE BRAND NEW REPLACEMENT BARRELS THAT WERE ORIGINALLY MANUFACTURED FOR THE CZECH UK59 UNIVERSAL MACHINE GUN CHAMBERED IN 7.62X54r.

THEY WERE PURCHASED UNFIRED AS SURPLUS AND
RE-PROFILED AND THREADED TO FIT ALL VARIATION OF NAGANT RECEIVERS, i.e. M91/30, M44, M38...ETC.

ABOUT THE BARREL, OUR U.P.S. SCALE SHOWS THIS BBL WEIGHING IN AT AROUND 6.5 POUNDS. IT HAS THE BRIGHTEST, MOST PERFECT RIFLING I HAVE EVER ENCOUNTERED. IT IS 24" IN TOTAL LENGTH AND HAS A 60 DEGREE RECESSED TARGET CROWN. EACH BARREL IS THREADED PROPERLY TO BE ACCEPTED BY ALL NAGANT RIFLE VARIATIONS CHAMBERED IN 7.62X54r.












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Sounds like a sweet deal to turn a Mosin in to a long range tack driver potentially if you can find or mod a sporter stock to accept one mounted into an action. It might be high time I get one, order a barrel and a unfinished stock from boyds and get busy.
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I was looking into these barrels awhile back. Looked like it could be a neat project build for a mosin. Biggest issue would be headspacing and stock.

Not that big of a deal. I think there is a video on youtube that some guy built one iraqveteran8888 something rather. Looks ugly as sin. But it shoots.

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Sounds like a sweet deal to turn a Mosin in to a long range tack driver potentially if you can find or mod a sporter stock to accept one mounted into an action. It might be high time I get one, order a barrel and a unfinished stock from boyds and get busy.
I was just thinking the same thing... could be a fun little project! A 6.5lb barrel.. yikes.
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I checked into this... you would need the reamers for 7.62x54R, and you have to worry about the timing of the extractor. I would have had around $600 in the conversion... hard to justify!!!
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I checked into this... you would need the reamers for 7.62x54R, and you have to worry about the timing of the extractor. I would have had around $600 in the conversion... hard to justify!!!
Why do you ream a barrel that is already chambered for the 7.62x54r?

What are you timing the extractor for in a bolt action? (for that matter how)
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I checked into this... you would need the reamers for 7.62x54R, and you have to worry about the timing of the extractor. I would have had around $600 in the conversion... hard to justify!!!


Umm, screw it in, headspace, modify your stock?

I have one on the shelf waiting, as my AKx54R build is top priority right now.
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Why do you ream a barrel that is already chambered for the 7.62x54r?

What are you timing the extractor for in a bolt action? (for that matter how)
When one installs a new barrel the new unit is screwed into the receiver untill a crush fit is achieved. This will make the chamber length vary from one receiver to another due to the locking lugs fitting into the receiver and not the barrel. In most cases one must run a chamber finish reamer into the new chamber to make the microscopic fit necessary for proper headspace.

The "timing" of the extractor mentioned is simply cutting metal from the barrel at the chamber so that the extractor will fit and close on the case rim. We always refered to it as fitting the extractor.
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When one installs a new barrel the new unit is screwed into the receiver untill a crush fit is achieved. This will make the chamber length vary from one receiver to another due to the locking lugs fitting into the receiver and not the barrel. In most cases one must run a chamber finish reamer into the new chamber to make the microscopic fit necessary for proper headspace.

The "timing" of the extractor mentioned is simply cutting metal from the barrel at the chamber so that the extractor will fit and close on the case rim. We always refered to it as fitting the extractor.
I see what you're saying. Thanks......

This would require a gunsmith who already had the reamers and head spacing gauges.
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And the gunsmith I deal with has no real use for .54R stuff, so I have to foot the bill for the reamers and headspace gauges. And reaming a chrome lined barrel isn't always that ea
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The main desire in doing this would be increased accuracy. The step before fancy barrels is custom made ammunition, handloading. Even before that step is mounting a scope. The traditionally way to do it is to bend the handle down and drill and tap the reciever for a scope.

The cheapest way to do some real accurate 400 yard range shooting is to buy a 223 bolt action rifle that comes just like the way described above.

IF you do look around, I have seen 7.62x54 barrels made more mausers and I think 110 series savage recievers.

If you go through all that work, might as well start off with a mauser. Atleast it'll be worth twice the price when your done.

Another cool way to make an affordable tack driver is to either work with what you got by handloading, trigger work, possible crown cutting, stock work, scope mounting, or peep sight conversion (nothing commercial out there right now).
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I have one of the said barrels and am in the middle of a build. The pictures are deceiving on classicarms site. They don't show the chamber end or the slots on the other side of the barrel. I found the best way to use this barrel is to make a press fit sleeve for the threaded end. Press it on and turn it down until you are about 30 degrees from the extractor cutout from lining up. Then turn down the sleeve and taper down to approximately .960" the length of the barrel. This gets rid of all the steps and mounts in the barrel and leaves a nice looking bull barrel to work with. The size also makes it fit the original stock (m91/30) if you cut off the forend and then open up the barrel relief in the wood.
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