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Old 07-25-2008, 11:14 AM
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you have to use this gun for self defence,hunting deer,rabbits,squirrells,and such, can be a shotgun or rifle, oh or a pistol tell me what would you choose???
Old 07-25-2008, 11:23 AM
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PTR-91 w/chamber inserts for .32 ACP for the small game.

Or...

Peter Hofer funfling: 12 ga x 12 ga over .375 H&H Magnum over .30-'06 over .22 Hornet
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Marlin 336 Lever Action in 30.30
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Ditto on the .30-30
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Its all dependant on how bad things are. Are laws still apicable? Here in Canada we can't use AR15's for hunting, if laws don't apply I'd take my ar15. If they still apply I'd take the M14.

This is assuming my location is going to be reletivly stable and time frame is less then 5yrs

If I'm going to be forced to be migratory for long periods of time then a 22lr semi auto handgun. You can carry 1000 rounds in the space of 1L water would take
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I'm curious as to why some would rather the .30 .30 instead of say, a mossberg 12 gauge that could be loaded with slugs for deer or lighter shot for smaller game.

Would you rather have the range than the versatility?
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I'm curious as to why some would rather the .30 .30 instead of say, a mossberg 12 gauge that could be loaded with slugs for deer or lighter shot for smaller game.

Would you rather have the range than the versatility?

I've taken everything from grouse to moose with the marlin 336 30-30...using a shotgun, its okay, but you're packing more weight with less ammo. I can comfortably carry 200 rounds of .30-30, but try carrying that same amount with 12 gauge shells...you wont get very far. Having the .30-30 you can use a 170 grain bullet and take nearly anything that walks the planet, including man. With the shotgun you are mixing up rounds from bird shot, slugs and or buckshot. Also, the .30-30 can shoot out to 100 yards (if you know how to hit what your aiming at) whereas the shotgun is 75 yards max with slugs...and before anyone jumps on me, the drop of a slug is faster than the centerfire bullet.
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Makes sense. Thanks.
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if you could only have one gun what would it be?
What I've chosen as my main go to, an M1A. As far as gathering small game, I'll set up traps and snares.
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Also, the .30-30 can shoot out to 100 yards (if you know how to hit what your aiming at) whereas the shotgun is 75 yards max with slugs...and before anyone jumps on me, the drop of a slug is faster than the centerfire bullet.
With modern saboted slugs the 12ga can easily reach out to 100yds with accuracy.

My choice is the 12 ga shotgun, hands down, for a single, gotta do everything firearm...

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Peter Hofer funfling: 12 ga x 12 ga over .375 H&H Magnum over .30-'06 over .22 Hornet
Jerry, I love the Hofer double rifle barrel drilling, SxS .22Hornet over a .410 barrel.
What a beautiful wee rifle that is. :D


One rifle, I'd have to say and over under break action, with .22LR over a .410 shotgun.
Can bag any game in NZ with those 2 rounds.
Both rounds are compact as well, allowing you to carry more ammo.

And I'd rather have a few options over fire power.
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i thought it over hard and i narrowed it down to a 22lr rifle, cheap ammo, you can carry alot of ammo, accurate my wife and i both can shoot them, rifle can be inexspensive to buy ,get a handgun to match it in same caliber.
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if only one weapon can be choosen to do everything than my choice would be a 12ga shotgun with ALOT of differnt ammo. its the only weapon can do it all

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if your totally in the bush and hunkered down. the 45/70 is a nice option, levers are reliable and the 45/70 packs a good punch, you can also single shot 410's in them for close range (no choke and rifled barel make it short range only for 410)
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Only taking 1 caliber into account, I'd have to pick a .22LR. Will stop anything here in OZ. Its shot placement that counts and there will be a supply of .22 for a long time to come.
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My WASR-10

Reliable, ammo is plentiful, simple design, and LOTS of magazines from small to large.

It's no tack driver, but nobody is keeping score on how accurately you shot that deer for dinner. Just that you got the job done.
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Jerry, I love the Hofer double rifle barrel drilling, SxS .22Hornet over a .410 barrel.
What a beautiful wee rifle that is. :D


One rifle, I'd have to say and over under break action, with .22LR over a .410 shotgun.
Can bag any game in NZ with those 2 rounds.
Both rounds are compact as well, allowing you to carry more ammo.

And I'd rather have a few options over fire power.

How much does one of these run?
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With modern saboted slugs the 12ga can easily reach out to 100yds with accuracy.

My choice is the 12 ga shotgun, hands down, for a single, gotta do everything firearm...

Allan
That's fine IF the barrel is rifled...rifled barrels wont take birdshot and SST's by Hornady do not perform all that best in a non-rifled barrel. Still, the slug (no matter what type) will drop more rapidly than any .30 cal slug. Now then, I say this because I'm an advocate of the .30-30. However, I used a shotgun in combat and for hunting and there is nothing impressive about it. On a different note, I own and use a 12 gauge single barrel black powder shotgun for geese and ducks.
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Hofer built arms run from about 10K on up, depending on which model and how much engraving you want. They can easily go for 100k with gold inlay and fancy wood.
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I'm glad I'm not limited to just one...
I subscribe to the notion that no one gun can do it all, some are better suited for certian tasks that others...and vis versa.
If I were limited to just one it would be a tough choice...
If I could reload then it would be a 30-30...
If I couldn't reload then probably the AK...
Then again by tomorrow my choices may change...LOL
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