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Old 09-14-2011, 07:45 AM
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I'm currently looking for a small pistol for conceal carry. I’ve held both the LC9 and the LCP, but I have not shot either. I don’t like the expense of the .380 ammo, but I do like the smaller size of the LCP…..decisions, decisions. I would appreciate any advice or perspective. I know it has to feel right in my hand, but by definition, any pistol other than full sized does not feel good in my hands, because I have huge hands. I’ve read a bunch on both and the camps seem pretty well divided, I’m curious what this crown has to say…thanks
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Im currently debating the 9 vs the 40.

If I had to choose between a 380 and a 9, Id go with the 9.
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I'm currently looking for a small pistol for conceal carry. I’ve held both the LC9 and the LCP, but I have not shot either. I don’t like the expense of the .380 ammo, but I do like the smaller size of the LCP…..decisions, decisions. I would appreciate any advice or perspective. I know it has to feel right in my hand, but by definition, any pistol other than full sized does not feel good in my hands, because I have huge hands. I’ve read a bunch on both and the camps seem pretty well divided, I’m curious what this crown has to say…thanks
I believe you've answered your own question Bigeast, it would have to be a full sized pistol to feel right in your hand and the LCP is certainly not a full size pistol. The LC9 is a little bigger than the LCP, but you might be better served with a SR9c. It isn't much larger than the LC9, but allows you to carry a spare 17 round magazine (and keep it in the pistol @ home).

I have a P3AT and like it okay for a back up but would never think of carrying it as a primary EDC pistol for SD. The LCP is the same size as the P3AT and it's dinky in my medium sized hand. My EDC gun is a Glock 23. I also have a Gen 4 G19 that I may carry once I've put 1,000 rounds through it with no greater than a 2% malfunction rate. To date it's 1/2 way there, 500 rounds with 1 FTF and that was with an old hand load.

Good luck

PS: I only put 250 rounds through the P3AT before I started using it as a BUG that .380 ammo is EXPENSIVE!
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Thanks for the advice Davo45, I may have to look for something bigger simply for the comfort of use factor. I'm just having trouble getting over the comfort of concealment factor; it is certainly not easy to comfortably conceal a Glock 22. I'm open to suggestions as to what else I should consider that falls in the easy to conceal category, even in a larger caliber.
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My .02
I will Pick the 9mm every time over the .380 for stopping power. (not trying to start that debate again just my opinion)

If you want something small that is in a 9mm have you looked at the Kel-Tec 9mm.
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Or the Glock 26
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Or the Walther PPS. (I pocket carry a Ruger LC9 almost every day).
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Bigeast, have you had a look at the LCR? I've got one in .357 and it's a sweet deep conceal carry gun.

http://ruger.com/products/lcr/index.html
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A Ruger LCP is something that you can have on you at almost every second of every day. With a pocket liner it looks and feels just like a standard wallet.

The presentation of a firearm will end the majority of encounters. The LCP will be just as good as a full size pistol in these cases.

In a situation where you have to employ a pistol in a pitched battle or to end a determined threat before you are harmed, only larger (relatively) pistols will be suitable. The G27/26 being a good example.

I have larger hands however I have found that I can get used to just about anything if I want to. Holding a LCP (or similar pistols) in the gun shop is different than putting a couple 100 rounds through one and trying to learn how to use it.

The benefit of the very small pistols is that they can always be on you and they can end most threats without firing a shot. If you believe that you will get into a pitched battle with a determined attacker then you should go up in size.

The G27 would be a better choice than the G26 with the .40 having more oomph and with your larger hands it should not pose as an issue.

Hickok is 6'8" with giant hands,...

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IMHO a carry gun is something you need to carry ALL THE TIME for me the LCP fits that bill.

Any concerns about ballistics or fit are secondary, IF you can carry the LC9 all the time then buy it, but I'll bet you'll find it too big for pocket carry as my son did with his Kel-tec 9mm.

You might want to look at the LCR I had a chance to shoot and carry one and it performed as well as my LCP but I wouldn’t want to shoot .357 mag though.
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You might want to look at the LCR I had a chance to shoot and carry one and it performed as well as my LCP but I wouldn’t want to shoot .357 mag though.
Everyone is built different, but in all honesty, .357 out of the LCR isn't really all that bad. They come from the factory with the Hogue Tamer Grip and it eats a lot of the recoil.
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Everyone is built different, but in all honesty, .357 out of the LCR isn't really all that bad. They come from the factory with the Hogue Tamer Grip and it eats a lot of the recoil.
Im really thinking about getting one of these for my wife and having her shoot 38 out of it.
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Im really thinking about getting one of these for my wife and having her shoot 38 out of it.
Yea the .357 model is 4 oz heavier than the 38+P model and with 38 special rounds it's very manageable.

I suggest having her shoot it first before you buy though. I bought one for my daughter and she's not comfortable with it.

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I can only give input on the LCP. I carried it every day for about 5-6 months. Very easy to carry in a variety of ways. Enjoyed that aspect of it. I'm in a hot environment the majority of the year, which limits my concealed options for carry.

I'm gonna avoid the ballistics side of the argument, and just say that something is better than nothing.

I have size 9-10 hands and this pistol was just awkward to shoot. Of course, handling it before shooting, I didn't think it would be quite as bad, but it didn't turn out that way. I was able to handle the LC9 recently at a gun show, and of course it feels good, I can actually get a third finger on the grip, but I can't make any further judgement.

My EDC is a .40 Sig on a compact frame which is a little more challenging to conceal, but I manage.

As you can see from the variety of replies you've received, it's quite personal. If you're the type of person that doesn't carry every day, then the LCP might be the one, just goes in the pocket and you're gone, it will definitely make you carry more often. Remember, it is what it is. I think that was where I went wrong. You're not gonna be at the range every weekend enjoying it. It's gonna be EDC/personal protection, for which it is adequate.
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I had a LCP when they first came out, but never liked carrying it. I have large hands as well and had no trouble shooting the pistol. It was a very good gun, I just did not like pocket carry.
For me it was just as easy and felt better to me, to carry a Colt defender, or Kahr CW45 in a comp tac minotaur IWB. Either one conceals with just a t shirt.
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I own the LCP and can say for certain it shoots well, accurate, and has manageable recoil. I can also pack it where my larger XD40's are not quite fitting like work or a wedding. Its not my favorite gun, nor is it my EDC, but for the occasions I need a small gun the LCP is a perfect fit.

On the ballistics side of things, if I had to use it for self defense, I would not at all feel undergunned.
I use 95 grain federal hydrashocks in JHP and get excellent expansion and channels out of them, I garentee it will deter or stop all but the most determined attackers in which a 9mm would would be no more effective.

Good luck in your search.
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I carry the Glock 23 and the LCP. Love the Glock but it is a lot to carry in the heat. So in the summer I carry the LCP. Sure it is a 380 but it is always with me, I mean I carry it to the bathroom, in my robe, everywhere.
It is a 380, so what. BUT it need practice, very long trigger pull, good for safety. I love mine with a pocket holster. Great for a daily carry or backup for my Glock.
If you get a small one, go shoot it. I have 500 rds through the LCP. Shoot what you will carry.
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Have you had a chance to check out the S&W Bodyguard 380? Damn fine little pistol and can be had for around the same price.

Here's a link:
http://palmettostatearmory.com/1620.php
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My wife had the Ruger LCP , she loved to carry it but hated to shoot it . I had to sell the LCP because of a job layoff . After work picked back up I bought her the Ruger LCR in .357 and she likes both carrying it and shooting it . Loaded with Buffalo Bore heavy 38 special + P , we can easily shoot 3-4" groups all day long , at about 25 feet . After having both Rugers I would highly recommend the Ruger LCR as a main concealed carry weapon . With the Bianchi Pocket Protector leather holster it is small enough to carry concealed comfortably in most pockets .
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I have owned both. I still have the LC9. I sold the LCP because of the size. I have large hands and worried that in a stressful situation that I would fire the first round and the slide bite to the web of my hand from a hasty grip would cause me to drop the gun or become totally focused on my bleeding hand and not totally on the situation. While I am totally positive that the first round round would be center-mass. I had some concerns about wither that .380 would be a stopping round and I would be not focused on anything but my hand. The LC9 fits my hand better and shoots great. The LCP shot great as well so they are a tie in that regards. It was just that personal observation that made me decide to go to the LC9. In the end you will have to make your own decision. Hope all the feedback gives you some ideas and you can make an informed choice from there.
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