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Old 09-12-2011, 01:03 AM
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I contacted a company Safe Zone Shelters and they make beautiful underground bunkers. However I don't have $65,000 to spend on it. I can't build my own because....well I just can't lol. I'm left scratching my head....I guess my basement will have to work when the SHTF. For those of you out there that can not afford the hefty price for a "condo" style bunker where will you and your family be hunker'd down at? Any other alternatives to going underground? Just curious.
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Weealll... you're screwed.


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Just spend some sweat equity and make the best out of your basement that you can. Although, I don't know why you'd limit yourself to your basement. Harden up the rest of the house if you can as well. Or at lest various rooms or sections.
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I guess you'll just have to Run4Cover.
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What about a concrete room, doesn't have to be huge, just some place that is safer than the rest of your home?
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unless you have a serious physical disability you could definitely build your own shelter
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I agree that you should spend your money and energy making your basement stronger, safer for you and your family. This is why we have a MAG (mutual aid group). We all help each other out in these situations with ideas and labor. Good luck!
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I contacted a company Safe Zone Shelters and they make beautiful underground bunkers. However I don't have $65,000 to spend on it. I can't build my own because....well I just can't lol. I'm left scratching my head....I guess my basement will have to work when the SHTF. For those of you out there that can not afford the hefty price for a "condo" style bunker where will you and your family be hunker'd down at? Any other alternatives to going underground? Just curious.
...What is it that you're trying to protect yourself from with an underground shelter? Weather? Discovery? Radiation? I would argue that building underground is no substitute for geographical isolation when it comes to discovery. If you live in tornado country, well, certainly that is an issue. As for radiation, you'd have to prepare to live underground for an awfully long time if you're trying to avoid radioactive fallout.
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why do you need a underground bunker ? they can and sometimes become your grave !
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You must have missed the promotion. Many of us who joined this forum got an underground bunker for free
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Exclamation Something not thought of much on here....

Here is one thing about a basement… It can get broken into very easy…
Think about it, block or concrete around you and most times under you… BUT what is above you? Wood…. What goes through wood? Axe’s, chainsaw, and jigsaw, radial trim saw… etc…

So planning on a basement in a SHTF scenario may not be the best. Now for storms and such yes it will be ok but if gangs of looters are going house to house and you have the basement door really sealed so they can’t come down and get you or your things…. They will cut through the wooden floor… It would not take much time or effort…

Now building a safe room in the basement with thick concrete and rebar and even adding plate steel… That will help. They may take the time to get through the floor into the basement but may not have the time or tools to get into the concrete safe room…

But you can bet they will be back with what they need so it will buy you time to get your things and family and get out…

Just a thought everyone…
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I contacted a company Safe Zone Shelters and they make beautiful underground bunkers. However I don't have $65,000 to spend on it. I can't build my own because....well I just can't lol. I'm left scratching my head....I guess my basement will have to work when the SHTF. For those of you out there that can not afford the hefty price for a "condo" style bunker where will you and your family be hunker'd down at? Any other alternatives to going underground? Just curious.
It's hard to answer without knowing what you have in mind. Since you mentioned $65,000 maybe you want a full apartment down there.

Also you didn't say what you could afford.
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Shovel,........................................... ...... $12
Concrete mix, 40 lb ................................ $4

Satisfaction of building one's own shelter ... Priceless.
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@Gunner you made alot of sense....so do u have a bunker underground or did you fortify your basement(safe room)? @MuleSkinner I can afford about $30K tops for an underground bunker. I was looking into getting one because what if 2012 does actually happen...my goose will be cooked. Also for flooding...WW3...Looting...or any other SHTF scenarios. It just makes sense to go underground for a better chance of survival. Someone commented and said that underground bunkers could become a grave. That's interesting...would you care to elaborate on that a lil more?(CJ06)
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Gunner you made alot of sense....so do u have a bunker underground or did you fortify your basement(safe room)? @MuleSkinner I can afford about $30K tops for an underground bunker. I Someone commented and said that underground bunkers could become a grave. That's interesting...would you care to elaborate on that a lil more?(CJ06)

Thank you… and yes I did this at our first house... Since then we moved and I had a "Special" area built underground...

Take your money and buy a very good safe door with 1 inch pin locks and a metal frame for it. Have 10 inch spike metal pins welded around the door frame…

Build or have the 8 inch thick walls built to make the room (Remember if you build in basement corner, you only need two walls built) then have at least ¼ plate steel attached to the walls and then another 2 inch think built concrete wall inside attached to the steel walls.

Place the safe door frame in place and weld it to the steel plating and then pour high strength concrete in to seal it in place. Then attach the safe door, hinges inside…

The roof of the room can also be reinforced concrete with plate steel. Make it big enough to store what you want in there and have a humidity system in place along with power and communications set up. Even have an alarm set up so you can signal if you need help from someone outside… Make it a true safe room that you can plan on spending say a total of 14 days in there with family/pets whomever you want.

Need water/bathroom/ and air vent system…

You really can have it done for what you can afford if you shop around and do what you can on your own or have friend and family that can help… Only problem there is they will know what it is…

I suggest if you hire it out, hire a out of town company to do that work… If you only have to build two walls and roof you will have plenty of money for that and the equipment you would need…

About the grave thing... most times people who do not plan or build what is right the first time, something will fail and it could cost them their life...

Hope it helps…
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You have a basement. Why would you want a separate bunker?
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