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Old 09-08-2011, 04:55 AM
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so i've been shopping for a SKS until recently when a friend suggested the MINI-30.

SKS:
PROs: very cheap. around $100-150CDN, CHEAP ammo, durable
CONS: box mag isn't interchangeable, stripper clips

MINI-30
PROs: removeable mags, cheap ammo
CONS: expensive to buy here $700+

i like the 7.62x39mm round. fair penetration, could be used for deer hunting.
i think the only thing i don't like about the SKS is the lack or removable mags.
for the price of a MINI30, i could buy an SKS and 2 crates(2800 rounds) of SPAMCAN ammo!
i was looking into buying the marcus "magadapter" for the SKS, but unfortunately they can't ship to canada.

any thoughts on this?
anyone online offer any advise or comparisons between the two rifles?

thanks in advance.
Old 09-08-2011, 05:25 AM
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Ive got one of each, both are ok. I dont like the mags for the sks but the only good mags for the mini-30 are the factory mags, fortunately they finally came out with 20 rd mags. fair amount of after market stuff for both. I dont like the iron site much on the mini. Niether are real accurate. Both have worked very well. 700 for a mini is to much. I guess i like the mini the most. Things i like about the mini are, easier to take scope on and off, sites are right done on the barrel. easier to disasemble and clean. the safety. AR or AK out of the question? what will be its primary use, hunting/survival?
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Are you in Canada? I don't know anything about their laws and I would look it up if I weren't at work.

If the laws don't prohibit you from buying an AK-47 I suggest a Saiga AK-47. More expensive than an SKS but not by much and cheaper than the Mini-30. Magazines and accessories a plenty for the AK.

If law prohibits you from buying an AK then I'd personally go with the SKS. Lots of love for that firearm.
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What kind of SKS? Yugo/Chinese or Russian?

If a Russian then it would be a toss up, if Yugo/Chinese then I would go with the Ruger.

Since you are worried about the mags, is it fair to assume that you think you may be pressed into using the rifle for defense?

If so then you can always use stripper clips to feed the SKS at the detriment of time between reloads. This gets lower with practice. Not taking money into account, the Ruger with a few 20 round magazines is quicker to employ with the same level of training.

A good Russian SKS will hold 2"-2.5" groups at 100 yards based upon reports around the net. The Ruger, 58x series, will hold below 2" and in some cases it will hold steady at 1.5" using good ammo.

Both can shoot surplus ammo and quality ammo fine.

The Ruger and the SKS both have a pretty solid aftermarket for parts, stocks, bolt ons, etc. The Ruger has a few more, not a ton, just a few more.

Both a solid platforms, built solid and would last you a long time. Sure the SKS has seen 'combat' however that does not matter as much as 'can the SKS you have in your hands holdup to abuse'. Remember, there is no 'SKS Store' to send it back to if you get a lemon. The Ruger is still actively supported if that matters to you.

The Ruger is lighter and more compact, the SKS has more Steel, the Ruger is Stainless with a synthetic stock, the SKS just screams "coat me in something", etc.

They have tradeoffs for each and so close in a lot of ways that they are hard to choose between.
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I'd prefer an SKS M or D model only.
These use AK mags.

You cannot compare a regular (stripper clip) SKS to a Ruger Mini 30/14.
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Well yeah you can if someone asks

If I read him right, the real sticking point is the mags and, if I read further, someone told him that mags are important.

Then he has the cost issue since 'someone told me mags are important' may not be $550+mag costs worth of advice.
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I have fired a Chinese SKS with a Tapco stock and a couple Tapco mags. The bolt must be open to change them. It wasn't a big deal to change them though. Strippers worked for the first 10 rounds, but a pain after that.

I don't know anything about the Mini-30. I have a Mini-14 and it's a blast to shoot. Somehow I got lucky. I have 5 aftermarket mags that work flawlessly. I guess it's a toss up, price vs speed.
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The Norincos are good, sturdy, reliable, accurate rifles when and where they are to be found. They have machined receivers, some have chromed barrels. I own and shoot one regularly so this is first hand knowledge. You can convert these to 30 round removable magazines by taking the original magazine box out. You don't need tools so switching it back is easy. Get the removable steel USA magazines and test them out, send the lemons back for exchange and test the new mags. I have 9-10 good reliable 30 rd magazines for my type 56 SKS. These can be stripper clip fed too with a little practice. For the price a Norinco SKS is an excellent entry rifle in 7.62X39mm, same round as the AK47
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SKS for rugged reliability. If it don't go bank EVERY time, it aint worth owning.
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I have a Norinco SKS, and a Mini 14. Is the gas system the same on a Mini 30 as a 14? If so, it's ability to be stripped for cleaning sucks.
SKS can be field stripped in less than 30 seconds, gas system and all.
SKS is battle proven, how about the Mini?
The SKS wins this fight!
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SKS or mini 30? SKS everytime. I ave owned several and they work every time. Accurate enough for hunting. Easy to clean. It is a rifle you can stake your life on.
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At those prices, I'd get 4 or 5 SKS's rather than 1 mini 30

Even if they were the same price, i'd probably lean towards the SKS.
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I like both platforms, but I'd probably go with the SKS. I don't see the strippers as a con. In fact, I tend to like the system. It allows you to carry more ammo with less weight and bulk than box magazines. Also a lot cheaper than box mags. So you can get fully equipped for less money, or have more money left for ammo.

But a lot of it depends on your perceived needs. If you feel that rate of firepower is an important criteria, the Mini might be a better choice, or perhaps an AK instead. They're just as reliable, mags are a lot cheaper, etc.
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For me.....I like the Mini, better looking, reliable and American made.

Not knocking the SKS but it is one butt-ugly rifle.

I do own both BTW
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thank you very much for all the fast replies.

i emailed marstar canada regarding their sks deal. aparently it is a chinese model with chome lined barrel.
http://www.marstar.ca/main/images/$75-SkS.jpg
(disclaimer. i do not work for marstar, i just shop there. )

this is their reply.
1. is it a blade or spike bayonet?SPIKE
2. is it a milled or stamped receiver?MILLED
3. are they still covered in cosmoline or are they cleaned before shipping?80%(EXTERIOR) IS DEGREASED
4. does the ball ammunition come in "spam cans" with stripper clips?YES SPAM CAN ,NO STRIPPER CLIPS

the milled receiver is a bonus!
even tho it is a spike bayonet(i prefer the blade), i think i will go with the SKS.
makes me wonder if the bayonet could be changed out for a blade design...?
while i really have no use for a bayonet for stabbing, an extra blade would make a good backup survival tool for field dressing game, etc...

thanks all for your valuable insight.
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You need to know the mini 30 will not reliably shoot the surplus ammo. There's an active thread detailing this. Otherwise I prefered the mini 30 and I owned both, past tense.
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thank you very much for all the fast replies.

i emailed marstar canada regarding their sks deal. aparently it is a chinese model with chome lined barrel.
http://www.marstar.ca/main/images/$75-SkS.jpg
(disclaimer. i do not work for marstar, i just shop there. )

this is their reply.
1. is it a blade or spike bayonet?SPIKE
2. is it a milled or stamped receiver?MILLED
3. are they still covered in cosmoline or are they cleaned before shipping?80%(EXTERIOR) IS DEGREASED
4. does the ball ammunition come in "spam cans" with stripper clips?YES SPAM CAN ,NO STRIPPER CLIPS

the milled receiver is a bonus!
even tho it is a spike bayonet(i prefer the blade), i think i will go with the SKS.
makes me wonder if the bayonet could be changed out for a blade design...?
while i really have no use for a bayonet for stabbing, an extra blade would make a good backup survival tool for field dressing game, etc...

thanks all for your valuable insight.
the blade on a sks bayo is duller than most of my butter knives, i have a Tula SKS with a blade bayo and they are more made for stabbing, not cutting (like most bayos) the SKS is the better choice in my opinion, especially since it has been battle proven in the absolute WORST conditions, my personal experience is mine never jammed, until i put an aftermarket "recoil buffer" in mine, never get fooled by the recoil buffer scam, they dont do anything but make your sks jam more than an avid fruit preserver
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I have had and have a bit of all of the SKS and recently picked up a Mini30, I'll take my Mini30 over any SKS any day all day..
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really you can't go wrong with a Norelco 26 it will chew up and spit out any ammo you put through it.
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