Israel an Esau, Two lost Nations

[jslay94]

Israel and Esau, Two lost Nations - By Bro Marlon

Gen 10: 1-5 Sons of Japheth, Isles of the Gentiles
Gen 11: 10-11, 26-27 Seed of Shem to Abram
1 Chron 1: 1-7 Gentiles, Shemites to Israel, Esau with Teman & Seir
Gen 25: 21-26 Isaac seed to Esau & Jacob
Obad 8-15 Strangers & Foreigners entered land, captivity of Israel
Luke 21: 20-24 Jerusalem trodden down by the Gentiles
L2MY Solomon’s Temple, Faith survives Dispersion, Pg. 86-87
1 Pet 2: 9-12 Holy nation, strangers & pilgrims, honest among Gentiles
Gen 25: 27-34 Esau sold his birthright to Jacob
Gen 27: 1-41 Blessings of Jacob & Esau
Deut 32: 8-21, 26 Israel waxed fat, provoked Lord to anger, scatter, name cease
Psa 83: 1-7 Hidden ones, cut them off, one consent, Edom & Ishmael
Ezek 36: 16-19 Lord pour fury out, scatter them among the heathens
Ezek 11: 14-16 Brothers, kindred, get you far from Lord, land ours
Ezek 36: 1-8 Enemy says ancient high places are ours, Israel yet to come
Isa 11: 1-12 Judgment, animals at peace, Lord gather Israel 2nd time
Joel 3: 1-8 Gentiles cast lots, Esau sold Israel to Greeks, repay
Isa 34: 1-8 Lord destroy Idumea, controversy of Zion cleared up
Rev 2: 9 Say they are Jews and are not
Rev 3: 9 Say they are Jews and are not
Ezek 35: 1-15 Edom claims two countries shall be mine, Judea & Samaria
Suntimes Westbank, Judaea & Samaria belong to Jews all generations
Edom AOB Pg. 150
Edom WSE Vl. 5 & 6, Mt. Seir
Idumea SOAAC Pg. 369-374
Obad 1-21 House of Esau destroyed
Eph 2: 11-20 Gentiles, foreigners/strangers, now fellow citizens
Act 10: 1-6, 25-28 Unlawful for Jews keep company or come to another Nation
Act 28: 26-28 Salvation sent to Gentiles
Act 13: 42-48 Word first to Israel, unworthy, turn to Gentiles, believe
Isa 49: 1-6 Light to the Gentiles

[Standox]

Originally Posted by jslay94

Israel and Esau, Two lost Nations - By Bro Marlon

Gen 10: 1-5 Sons of Japheth, Isles of the Gentiles
Gen 11: 10-11, 26-27 Seed of Shem to Abram
1 Chron 1: 1-7 Gentiles, Shemites to Israel, Esau with Teman & Seir
Gen 25: 21-26 Isaac seed to Esau & Jacob
Obad 8-15 Strangers & Foreigners entered land, captivity of Israel
Luke 21: 20-24 Jerusalem trodden down by the Gentiles
L2MY Solomon’s Temple, Faith survives Dispersion, Pg. 86-87
1 Pet 2: 9-12 Holy nation, strangers & pilgrims, honest among Gentiles
Gen 25: 27-34 Esau sold his birthright to Jacob
Gen 27: 1-41 Blessings of Jacob & Esau
Deut 32: 8-21, 26 Israel waxed fat, provoked Lord to anger, scatter, name cease
Psa 83: 1-7 Hidden ones, cut them off, one consent, Edom & Ishmael
Ezek 36: 16-19 Lord pour fury out, scatter them among the heathens
Ezek 11: 14-16 Brothers, kindred, get you far from Lord, land ours
Ezek 36: 1-8 Enemy says ancient high places are ours, Israel yet to come
Isa 11: 1-12 Judgment, animals at peace, Lord gather Israel 2nd time
Joel 3: 1-8 Gentiles cast lots, Esau sold Israel to Greeks, repay
Isa 34: 1-8 Lord destroy Idumea, controversy of Zion cleared up
Rev 2: 9 Say they are Jews and are not
Rev 3: 9 Say they are Jews and are not
Ezek 35: 1-15 Edom claims two countries shall be mine, Judea & Samaria
Suntimes Westbank, Judaea & Samaria belong to Jews all generations
Edom AOB Pg. 150
Edom WSE Vl. 5 & 6, Mt. Seir
Idumea SOAAC Pg. 369-374
Obad 1-21 House of Esau destroyed
Eph 2: 11-20 Gentiles, foreigners/strangers, now fellow citizens
Act 10: 1-6, 25-28 Unlawful for Jews keep company or come to another Nation
Act 28: 26-28 Salvation sent to Gentiles
Act 13: 42-48 Word first to Israel, unworthy, turn to Gentiles, believe
Isa 49: 1-6 Light to the Gentiles

break it down for us, where do you stand?

[Tachmonite]

Abrahamic yet unbelieving... so tragic.. must be pride ?
Luke 3:7-9
Then he said to the multitudes that came out to be baptized by him,
“Brood of vipers! Who warned you to flee from the wrath to come?
Therefore bear fruits worthy of repentance, don't begin to say to yourselves,
‘We have Abraham as our father.’ For I say to you that
God is able to raise up children to Abraham from these stones.
And even now the ax is laid to the root of the trees.
Therefore every tree which does not bear good fruit
is cut down and thrown into the fire.”

[Standox]

Originally Posted by Tachmonite

Abrahamic yet unbelieving... so tragic.. must be pride ?
Luke 3:7-9
Then he said to the multitudes that came out to be baptized by him,
“Brood of vipers! Who warned you to flee from the wrath to come?
Therefore bear fruits worthy of repentance, don't begin to say to yourselves,
‘We have Abraham as our father.’ For I say to you that
God is able to raise up children to Abraham from these stones.
And even now the ax is laid to the root of the trees.
Therefore every tree which does not bear good fruit
is cut down and thrown into the fire.”

Now the LORD had said unto Abram, Get thee out of thy country, and from thy kindred, and from thy father's house, unto a land that I will shew thee:


Gen 12:2 And I will make of thee a great nation, and I will bless thee, and make thy name great; and thou shalt be a blessing:


Gen 12:3 And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed.

notice here what it says, maybe Jesus bit more off than He could chew huh

also notice this "in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed." [/B]

Jesus or Avraham? its not kosher to change names an Text and say like it "Actually" means his seed or something crazy like that, okay it means what it says there is no way around it, if you try you are fooling yourself

[Tachmonite]

John 8:31-33
Then Jesus said to those Jews who believed Him,
“If you abide in My word, you are My disciples indeed.
And you shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.”
They answered Him,
“We are Abraham’s descendants, and have never been in bondage
to anyone. How can You say, ‘You will be made free’?”


Try Egypt, Assyria, Philistia, Babylon, Persia, Greece, Rome, Islam.
Try SIN. But for a few brief years of righteousness... perpetually bound.
Saddest story ever told. Stiff necked and rebellious people.
Their own blood be upon them and their children as they tear
their clothes and throw handfuls of dust into the air.
Satans food as he crawls on his belly devouring the unbelieving.

[Harmless Drudge]

Originally Posted by Standox

Now the LORD had said unto Abram, Get thee out of thy country, and from thy kindred, and from thy father's house, unto a land that I will shew thee:


Gen 12:2 And I will make of thee a great nation, and I will bless thee, and make thy name great; and thou shalt be a blessing:


Gen 12:3 And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed.

notice here what it says, maybe Jesus bit more off than He could chew huh

also notice this "in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed." [/B]

Jesus or Avraham? its not kosher to change names an Text and say like it "Actually" means his seed or something crazy like that, okay it means what it says there is no way around it, if you try you are fooling yourself

Grammar much?

[Standox]

Originally Posted by Tachmonite

John 8:31-33
Then Jesus said to those Jews who believed Him,
“If you abide in My word, you are My disciples indeed.
And you shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.”
They answered Him,
“We are Abraham’s descendants, and have never been in bondage
to anyone. How can You say, ‘You will be made free’?”


Try Egypt, Assyria, Philistia, Babylon, Persia, Greece, Rome, Islam.
Try SIN. But for a few brief years of righteousness... perpetually bound.
Saddest story ever told. Stiff necked and rebellious people.
Their own blood be upon them and their children as they tear
their clothes and throw handfuls of dust into the air.
Satans food as he crawls on his belly devouring the unbelieving.

ok man i see your point is clear