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Old 07-28-2011, 12:30 PM
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I plan to go on a extended hike (about 6 months) passing through towns for food and what ever else needed. Carrying water would be to much day in and day out. After reading lots of reviews of water filters Katadyn seems to be the most recommended. The only problem is from the the pictures on their website it looks entirely plastic. Would this or others hold up to every day use?

What are your experiences with hand pump water filters for everyday use, week hikes, or in general?

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We use them all the time on hikes. Those and MSR units. They are tough, no doubt. Case won't break but a spare filter would not be a bad idea to carry.
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Thanks papajo, I'll be sure to get a spare just in case.
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If you peruse backpacking forums, you'll see plenty of folks that have had problems in the field with Katadyn, MSR, SteriPen, and most others. They have moving parts, seals, filters that need to be changed, batteries, etc.

That's why I like the Sawyer inline. Simple, effective, light, reliable, tough. Problems with them are nearly non existent.

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I think the Katadyn Pocket is probably the most durable. It is not plastic. It is made of Aluminium, stainless steel, silicone, and the filter is ceramic. Of course the ceramic filter is subject to breakage if dropped. It's a good idea to get a backup replacement.

With that said, the Pocket is very expensive. It has a lifetime guarantee. It is now retailing for $349.99. The manufacturer has set the price. It's almost impossible to sell at that price. I've got a discount coupon code for $50 off (PKTSVR) plus free shipping.

I've also got a large selection of Sawyer water treatment products for 20% off until tomorrow.
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I like the MSR Hyperflow as a primary filter. $80. Makes 3 liters per minute. Tough as nails. Small size.

I like the Sawyer inline as a back-up. $30. Simple. Easy to use.

I have used the heck out of both and never broken them. usually have one on my person and one in the pack. Either will fit in the pocket of my cargo pants/shorts.
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My Katadyn Hiker broke after using it bout three times. The little piece of plastic that connects the "in" tube to the body cracked. Katadyn had a new body to me about two days later.

If you read reviews of the Katadyn and MSR plastic filters, they seem to break or malfunction quite a bit. Both companies have good customer service though. Just make sure you have a backup system like the tablets.
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I think the Katadyn Pocket is probably the most durable. It is not plastic. It is made of Aluminium, stainless steel, silicone, and the filter is ceramic. ...
Well, the housing between the aluminum is made of plastic. The black (or blue/white) part of the unit.

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I plan to go on a extended hike (about 6 months) passing through towns for food and what ever else needed. Carrying water would be to much day in and day out. After reading lots of reviews of water filters Katadyn seems to be the most recommended. The only problem is from the the pictures on their website it looks entirely plastic. Would this or others hold up to every day use?

What are your experiences with hand pump water filters for everyday use, week hikes, or in general?

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I have tried a lot of filters. It depends on the katadyn model. Katadyn pocket is at the top as far as durability goes. Just about any filter you purchase nowadays will last you 6 months. I did see someone break a MSR sweetwater though and a some housing cracks on the hiker. For the MSR it was user error but he did break the hinge off the pumping lever. So always have a backup.

I use mostly the Katadyn pocket filter for longer trips. I also carry the MSR Miox if I am in an area where viruses are a problem. I also carry a Sawyer inline for a backup.

Where are you going? That might help us give a better suggestion for your uses.
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AZB - Sawyer inline huh? Haven't herd of them will definitely check into it though. I've got a while before leaving. Finding the best gear at affordable prices is my main goal at this point.

Highwater - Well like you said that is quite expensive even with the $50 dollar discount.

Tango2Echo - MSR is another one that seems to get mentioned a lot. $80 is a descent price to.

Thanks for your comments and advise everyone. You don't know how helpful you've been. I'll surely check into the different filters mentioned here.

One other thing does this site allow thread blogs/journals? I'd like to document the journey or at least as much of it as possible. It would double as a place for family to check in and what not.

Has anyone done such a thing for an extended trip?
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"Well, the housing between the aluminum is made of plastic. The black (or blue/white) part of the unit."

I thought that too when I first started selling them, but I discovered the blue/black casings are actually silcone, which isn't plastic. I think it's more durable than most plastics.
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"Well, the housing between the aluminum is made of plastic. The black (or blue/white) part of the unit."

I thought that too when I first started selling them, but I discovered the blue/black casings are actually silcone, which isn't plastic. I think it's more durable than most plastics.
Wow I am glad to be wrong about that. Might be the reason why they last 20+ years without cracking. Thanks for that info!
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Vicdotcom - The plan is to take a bus from maine down to southern Georgia this winter then hike west staying at primitive camping grounds or near water sources when possible along the southern coast. A rout hasn't been planned yet though. As you can see still gathering supply's.

Technically it's not a hike because there will be a lot of road travel.
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Wow I am glad to be wrong about that. Might be the reason why they last 20+ years without cracking. Thanks for that info!
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AZB - Sawyer inline huh? Haven't herd of them will definitely check into it though. I've got a while before leaving. Finding the best gear at affordable prices is my main goal at this point.

Highwater - Well like you said that is quite expensive even with the $50 dollar discount.
John, I totally know what you mean about the price of the Pockets. It's a testament to their design and reliability that many still insist on nothing else
I've got the Sawyer Inline on sale for $44.79 until tomorrow. You probably won't find it cheaper. Go here.
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The problem is the price unfortunately because they do look vary durable and of course the brand is reliable. Yet again unfortunately I won't have the money to buy a filter till payday. What would be the best product for $100-150 range?
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Vicdotcom - The plan is to take a bus from maine down to southern Georgia this winter then hike west staying at primitive camping grounds or near water sources when possible along the southern coast. A rout hasn't been planned yet though. As you can see still gathering supply's.

Technically it's not a hike because there will be a lot of road travel.
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...What would be the best product for $100-150 range?

Ok well perfect. That is great info. So viruses won't be a problem. Water sources will be relatively clear. If not, then you can use a pre-filter over the input hoses like a bandanna or something to make your filters work less. You aren't doing a thru-hike so weight is not to much of a concern either.

The Katadyn Hiker and a Sawyer inline filter would be my suggestions. Having both would still keep you in the 100-150$ price range. Sawyer would be best primary if you are using a hydration bladder and the hiker as a backup. If using bottles, I would use the hiker as the primary and the sawyer as the backup. But having both is would be good in case one fails.
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Well, the housing between the aluminum is made of plastic. The black (or blue/white) part of the unit..
Yes, its called a bush or bearing, it minimises wear from metal to metal contact. Just carry a spare


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I have tried a lot of filters. It depends on the katadyn model. Katadyn pocket is at the top as far as durability goes. Just about any filter you purchase nowadays will last you 6 months. I did see someone break a MSR sweetwater though and a some housing cracks on the hiker. For the MSR it was user error but he did break the hinge off the pumping lever. So always have a backup.

I use mostly the Katadyn pocket filter for longer trips. I also carry the MSR Miox if I am in an area where viruses are a problem. I also carry a Sawyer inline for a backup.

Where are you going? That might help us give a better suggestion for your uses.
No mechanical device will avoid wear. Just be aware of those failure points and pack spares.
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I've had a Katadyn Pocket for many years. It has never failed me. I do wish it were a little lighter and produced filtered water a bit more quickly but I have no plans on getting rid of it anytime soon.
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Ok well perfect. That is great info. So viruses won't be a problem. Water sources will be relatively clear. If not, then you can use a pre-filter over the input hoses like a bandanna or something to make your filters work less. You aren't doing a thru-hike so weight is not to much of a concern either.

The Katadyn Hiker and a Sawyer inline filter would be my suggestions. Having both would still keep you in the 100-150$ price range. Sawyer would be best primary if you are using a hydration bladder and the hiker as a backup. If using bottles, I would use the hiker as the primary and the sawyer as the backup. But having both is would be good in case one fails.
Do you sell these particular filters if so I'd purchase from your store because you've been so helpful it's great to have someone on these boards who knows his stuff and is willing to help. That's one more thing crossed off the list .

Thanks again everyone for each of your advise/opinion's/experiences. I've never had a forum welcome me as you all have.
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I'd say that they are pretty damn durable. I do however stay away from ceramic filters because they are less durable. I've been on trips where buddies have dropped their ceramic and been without a filter of their own for the duration of the trip. Thank god there are always 2 or more filters in a group.

All that being said, that is why we bring along tablets and other methods of filtering water for drinking...

I have the Katadyn Hiker Pro, and the MSR Sweetwater. I would recommend both. The price that Highwater has listed on the InLine is a great one. I've had trouble finding them under 50 in most cases, and the InLine is probably the most versatile unit on the market right now in my opinion. It's actually the next filter on my list to get.
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